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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby gotegenks » Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:54 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:Well, people probably don't do it right because of that - it's unfair to the creators when the viewer is biased and skips tracks.

well personal biases are your own thing, if you're gonna be a little shit like that then, hey, you gotta do you.
but to not have this so you can trick them into liking something by someone they don't like is a bad reason imo. Chances are the editor isn't overly fond of his hater either so who gives a shit?

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Nya-chan Production wrote:Btw, when I watch MEP I DO watch it completely and I DO watch credits.
Exactly a mep is meant to be watched as a whole piece not to be skipped around in..

i guess that's just me then, i end up watching the whole thing sooner or later (if i like what i've seen), but for really big meps i usually find a track i'm not feeling and start to skip around. Short attention span i guess.

Ileia wrote:Besides, if you can skip around the file to watch the segments you want, then you can skip to the end to check the credits.

gote wrote:If you see it in the end credits, then if you're interested, you'll go look through the tracks and count until you reach the track, and then you watch it again because now you know it's someone you know or something, but the whole process is just annoying if you read it in the desc then you know beforehand and you can be keeping an eye out for a particular track.


this whole idea is just to provide solid info that would be more-or-less required on MEPs and would make lives simpler for more impatient viewers and make it somewhat easier to access (particularly with meps that only credit people in the end credits) as opposed to having the file on-hand. Some of us need to tidy up our HDDs every once in a while and huge video files that are often speckled with bad segments (some of the time, not all the time) are probably going to be deleted. Sure there's the preview, sure there are ways around it but it's a lot simpler/easier/better/more convenient to have it in the info. Everyone that wants to blindly judge 30 straight minutes (at most) of video can still do as they please by averting their gaze from the track-listing box!

NS wrote:I like this idea, but it would have to include timestamps... a lot of meps do good jobs at track transitions and it can be hard to tell when each new segment comes in, and you may lose track of who edited which part if you are trying to find out...

Timestamps would be really nice :o
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:37 pm

gote wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:Well, people probably don't do it right because of that - it's unfair to the creators when the viewer is biased and skips tracks.

well personal biases are your own thing, if you're gonna be a little shit like that then, hey, you gotta do you.
but to not have this so you can trick them into liking something by someone they don't like is a bad reason imo. Chances are the editor isn't overly fond of his hater either so who gives a shit?

... what? O.o SOme aspects of modern English just escape me, it seems...
It's not because of "liking/hating", it's because MEPs are supposed to be one piece. Not "AMVs from editors put together" but "one MEP by a group of editor". If you can't take it like that, there's no point in watching MEPs in the first place - when you see your favorite editor in the listing just ask him to release his/her track alone ;x
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby Kitsuner » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:41 am

Nya-chan Production wrote:It's not because of "liking/hating", it's because MEPs are supposed to be one piece. Not "AMVs from editors put together" but "one MEP by a group of editor". If you can't take it like that, there's no point in watching MEPs in the first place - when you see your favorite editor in the listing just ask him to release his/her track alone ;x

Exactly. They might be listed the same way, but cohesive collaborations are very different from compilations of similar videos.
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby gotegenks » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:40 am

Kitsuner wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:It's not because of "liking/hating", it's because MEPs are supposed to be one piece. Not "AMVs from editors put together" but "one MEP by a group of editor". If you can't take it like that, there's no point in watching MEPs in the first place - when you see your favorite editor in the listing just ask him to release his/her track alone ;x

Exactly. They might be listed the same way, but cohesive collaborations are very different from compilations of similar videos.


Mkay, let's separate meps into "Cohesive Collaborations" and "Compilations" I'd say there's a good amount of each, right? Let's label the compilations so people aren't butthurt about their A-M-V episodes being labeled.
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:07 am

I still wouldn't do it because I'm too lazy to fill out that much information and I already put it into the end credits... Your arguments still don't change that...

Note: I'm speaking as a mep coordinator... even if the option was there I still won't do it.

and if you want to skip over pieces to see your friend's piece then ask your friend to release that piece as a stand alone, then get it instead (as was already mentioned), either that or ask your friend to send you just their track.

Not the org's place to compensate for your short attention span imho.
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby Kitsuner » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:12 pm

gote wrote: Let's label the compilations so people aren't butthurt about their A-M-V episodes being labeled.

Which version of MEP are you considering an A-M-V episode?
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby gotegenks » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:57 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:I still wouldn't do it because I'm too lazy to fill out that much information and I already put it into the end credits... Your arguments still don't change that...

Note: I'm speaking as a mep coordinator... even if the option was there I still won't do it.

and if you want to skip over pieces to see your friend's piece then ask your friend to release that piece as a stand alone, then get it instead (as was already mentioned), either that or ask your friend to send you just their track.

Not the org's place to compensate for your short attention span imho.

the short attention span things are just side benefits i guess. But the point of this would be purely informational.
How lazy can you be? Name -tab- Anime -tab- Audio -tab- Rinse and repeat. It doesn't sound that hard or time consuming unless you don't know who your editors/anime/songs are

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gote wrote: Let's label the compilations so people aren't butthurt about their A-M-V episodes being labeled.

Which version of MEP are you considering an A-M-V episode?

The cohesive collaborations, 20 minutes of seamless video = episode, sorry, stupid joke i guess.
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:39 pm

I'm pretty damn lazy... besides as I already stated, that info is in the mep credits.. I already did all that work there, I don't want to do it again.
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Re: Track Listings for Meps?

Postby Taite » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:12 pm

Track listings for Meps are already included in the credits, and if you are so biased that you need to see only one editor's track, then just flip through the video itself. I don't think this needs to be done to accompany the laziness some people might have. It would create an unnecessary hassle for the mods, as far as I see it.

Also, an individual can already choose whether or not they want to upload their track to the site. I wouldn't take away that freedom by having a special section where you upload each person's track. I'd just leave it up to the creator.

This would be nice for organizational purposes, but it seems like a highly chaotic idea for such a trivial thing. I'd say everything is already organized enough.

Oh, and a lot of meps already include timestamps in the description.
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