New feature: Streaming Video

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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby LittleAtari » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:40 am

Pas wrote:Pretty neat. Just a quick question though, does it require that the viewer finish watching the video before giving a comment/rating or can they do so while streaming the video?

I ask because I'm somewhat cautious that people will rate and comment before even finishing the video. People these days don't seem to have an attention span any longer than 5 seco- oh look a bird!

I believe it allows you to rate it after 30 seconds. It's true that people will rate a video without finishing, but people will stop watching a downloaded video also and then come back rate it. So I dont think it's much of a change.
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Pas » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:46 am

LittleAtari wrote:people will stop watching a downloaded video also and then come back rate it.

I have never done this, nor do I see the point in doing so. I mean most AMVs span only a mere 3-4 minutes. Would it truly be that difficult to sit down for that time and just watch something?

I'm not so much complaining as trying to raise the issue of encouraging people to become more impatient and assume their stance well before the video has ended. After all, many good AMVs only really build up towards the end.
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Shui » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:16 am

That's interesting news...

if for the good or the bad, we're going to see that soon enough.
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Pwolf » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:28 am

Great job Eric!
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby godix » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:08 am

Pas wrote:
LittleAtari wrote:people will stop watching a downloaded video also and then come back rate it.

I have never done this, nor do I see the point in doing so. I mean most AMVs span only a mere 3-4 minutes. Would it truly be that difficult to sit down for that time and just watch something?

I'm not so much complaining as trying to raise the issue of encouraging people to become more impatient and assume their stance well before the video has ended. After all, many good AMVs only really build up towards the end.

Try watching the first 30 seconds of Attack of the Otaku, Euphoria, or Naruto's Technique Beat and you'll notice it's pretty representative of the video as a whole. 30 seconds is 15% to 20% of most videos. If you've seen nothing to grab your attention in that significant of a percentage what are the odds you're going to like it if you finish it?

Anyway, I've said it in IRC but I'll repeat myself. Nice job guys. I wasn't one of the people who supported streaming, however with the way it was implemented I think it'll work out rather well.
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby JudgeHolden » Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:42 am

A++

Love the "Stream a Random video" option!
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Pas » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:19 am

godix wrote:Try watching the first 30 seconds of Attack of the Otaku, Euphoria, or Naruto's Technique Beat and you'll notice it's pretty representative of the video as a whole. 30 seconds is 15% to 20% of most videos. If you've seen nothing to grab your attention in that significant of a percentage what are the odds you're going to like it if you finish it?

That may be true for the videos you mentioned, but there are a wider array of videos that require buildup. More specifically it's the ones that tell a story which require the viewer to really sit down and watch the video in its entirety before passing a judgment.

Such videos could include tayo's "Part of You, Shadow of Me", Nessephanie's "Sunrise" and kiarrens's "Ouran Day", all of which really need to be seen from beginning to end to fully appreciate the effort put into them. Just watching the first 30 seconds of each isn't exactly a sufficient time frame to really understand what's going on in the videos, at least not for all of them.

Once again I have to emphasis that I'm not trying to be ungrateful towards the admins for setting up this feature, but I don't want to see people simply judging a video after only watching the first 30 seconds of it. Of course, not everyone will be doing that (even when given the opportunity) but it seems to encourage people to pass a quick judgment on videos when otherwise would require some thought and consideration.
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Willen » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:56 am

If the combination of song and anime or the concept of the video if described in the video info page doesn't make the viewer watch it for longer than 30 seconds, then I'm not sure if watching the entire thing will change their opinion of the video. Yeah, they may see that it was a very well executed video, but if it's not their cup of tea, then oh well. Let the chips (or stars) fall where they may.

I'm pretty much in the camp of "using it for previewing questionable videos, but not gonna use it for more than that". Although, I have seen some decent videos that unfortunately were marred by use of fansubbed anime for source. That and the occasional bad edit. Those are probably best viewed streamed. Of course the really bad ones aren't worth seeing more than a few seconds and those are perfect for streaming since I can stop the video without getting the entire file sent to me. Then again, to rate those videos I'll have to let it go for at least 30 seconds... :|

Still, it's nice to see this available. :up:
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Scintilla » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:56 am

Okay, but can people leave opinions after only having seen the preview?

(Personally, I wouldn't want someone leaving a review after only 30 seconds; but if they watch the whole thing, then I wouldn't mind.)
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby prowild » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:59 am

this is really awesome :up: a nice feature i was looking for on a-m-v.org ^-^
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Brad » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:06 am

Bad ass. Pat yourself on the back Eric :)
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Koopiskeva » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:12 am

Bad
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Good job Eric and co. |:>
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby Willen » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:24 am

Scintilla wrote:Okay, but can people leave opinions after only having seen the preview?

(Personally, I wouldn't want someone leaving a review after only 30 seconds; but if they watch the whole thing, then I wouldn't mind.)

After the viewer leaves a star rating (with optional quick comment), a link to leave an opinion appears. Same as how it works now on the Pending Stars section of the Members Main Page.
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby mexicanjunior » Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:47 am

Will we be able to embed the streaming videos in other websites (Facebook, Myspace, other forums) like YT? It would be a nice alternative to the poor quality YT embedding...
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Re: New feature: Streaming Video

Postby derobert » Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:26 am

mexicanjunior wrote:Will we be able to embed the streaming videos in other websites (Facebook, Myspace, other forums) like YT? It would be a nice alternative to the poor quality YT embedding...
It's being looked into.
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