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Postby Otohiko » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:18 pm

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Otohiko wrote:And ban people like me from whining.

Can do! :lol:


DO IT. NOW. :|
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Postby downwithpants » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:56 am

congrats winners! i should watch a few of them videos.
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Postby wurpess » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:02 am

I think the overall running of went really well this year. Really love the vid pack and the way everything's listed and you can see everything from previous years. The ribbons are a cute idea too. Great stuff. And congrats to all the winners! *^_^*
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Postby spk1983 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:45 am

Congrats to all the winners...

I kinda liked/disliked the shortened voting period: it certainly would allow it to drag out less, but then for someone like me who is still on dialup ( >_< ), it was rather hassling to download all the semifinal/final videos in time to make a truly objective choice, having effectively 1 day to make my choices, and I pride myself on making some solid choices, since I'm better at judging than creating AMVs. Some of the choices I got to make closer matched the JCAs though, and after getting a chance to watch them all again today before viewing these threads would have allowed me to change my choices that would have made them almost identical to the JCA.

I personally would like to see a small amount of statistics i.e. the difference in the number of votes among all the AMVs, without naming exactly who got how many votes (1st got x amount of votes, 2nd got y amount of votes etc).

However, the masses have spoken, so I hope that 2008 brings an even higher quality of videos that are loved by people from all around the world.
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Postby Caryn18 » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:25 pm

Congrats to all the winners this year!!! :lol:
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Postby Pherphq » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:47 am

good job, congrats to the editors that are winners.
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Postby Goketsu » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:05 am

congrats to everyone who won I am a little disappointed a couple of my picks didn't win but they were all good choices for the awards recieved =D
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Postby keeso » Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:47 am

Congrats Nostromo n Darius! 8-)
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Postby JudgeHolden » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:10 am

I want the process to be more transparent. Total of vote, how many votes for each video, ect. :roll: Would you really want to wake up after an election to find out that the election commission would tell you who won, but not allow you to know you the total votes for each candidate? :shock:

I don't want who voted for what, just the numbers. :P
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Postby Fall_Child42 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:25 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:I want the process to be more transparent. Total of vote, how many votes for each video, ect. :roll: Would you really want to wake up after an election to find out that the election commission would tell you who won, but not allow you to know you the total votes for each candidate? :shock:

I don't want who voted for what, just the numbers. :P


Like the real election counts aren't faked anyway.

You have FAR too much trust in your electoral procedures.
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Postby JudgeHolden » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:09 pm

Fall_Child42 wrote:
JudgeHolden wrote:I want the process to be more transparent. Total of vote, how many votes for each video, ect. :roll: Would you really want to wake up after an election to find out that the election commission would tell you who won, but not allow you to know you the total votes for each candidate? :shock:

I don't want who voted for what, just the numbers. :P


Like the real election counts aren't faked anyway.

You have FAR too much trust in your electoral procedures.
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So, are you saying the VCAs are Faked to .... :o
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Postby Fall_Child42 » Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:16 pm

JudgeHolden wrote:
Fall_Child42 wrote:
JudgeHolden wrote:I want the process to be more transparent. Total of vote, how many votes for each video, ect. :roll: Would you really want to wake up after an election to find out that the election commission would tell you who won, but not allow you to know you the total votes for each candidate? :shock:

I don't want who voted for what, just the numbers. :P


Like the real election counts aren't faked anyway.

You have FAR too much trust in your electoral procedures.
:roll:


So, are you saying the VCAs are Faked to .... :o


I'm saying the numbers would be no more or less accurate than simply stating who won.

It's like American Idol ¦:O
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Postby OmniStrata » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:28 am

A most impressive set of vids...

Of course, I grabbed the best Dance, Best Special FX, and best amv overall by default...

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WELL DONE!

Wish I could edit but it's kinda bled outta my system at this point...

CONGRATS TO ALL!
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Postby jasper-isis » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:26 pm

Doki was curious about the influence of non-editor votes ("the masses" :amv:) on VCA results, so he did some research. Here are the results of the unofficial Editors' Choice Awards:

Best Dance: Magic Pad (VCA 2nd)
Best Dramatic: Time Waits For No One (VCA tied for 2nd)
Best First: The Battle of Heroic Souls (VCA 2nd)
Best Fun: daydream (VCA 2nd)
Best Sentimental: Time Waits For No One (VCA 2nd)
Most Helpful: JaddziaDax (VCA tied for 2nd)
Most Original: daydream (VCA 2nd)
The other 18 categories: the same as the VCAs. Yes, all of them. The very same.



Anyway, I guess I should come back and address some of the suggestions here. :P

Turbo wrote:To-do list for next year:
1) Enable "Put all your videos in catalog" by default

Well, the point is to make the VCA an opt-in activity. Some editors have missed submitting to the VCA in the past, yes, but this year we made a huge effort to remind people about the deadline and to make the qualifications process as painless as possible.

Xexyzl wrote:How about making the Finalist video pack a torrent? Might help save on bandwidth…

Spk1983 wrote:I kinda liked/disliked the shortened voting period: it certainly would allow it to drag out less, but then for someone like me who is still on dialup ( >_< ), it was rather hassling to download all the semifinal/final videos in time to make a truly objective choice, having effectively 1 day to make my choices

We're working on a better way of delivering VCA entries to voters for next year.

Driftroot wrote:/me deletes lengthy rant about messed up aspect ratios and subtitled footage being allowed past the front door of the VCAs.

I too think we could do better by prohibiting unintended subtitles and watermarks (though I would let bad AR slide), but logistically it would be difficult for us to enforce quality requirements.

We could potentially create a "disputes" system where people can challenge the validity of entries with the contest coordinator. For example, if you find that a Best First Video entry were NOT actually the editor's first video, then you'd notify the coordinator through the disputes system, and if the issue is deemed valid, then the entry would be disqualified. Etc.


Now, regarding the vote counts...

My opinion is that posting the vote counts would not benefit the contest in any useful ways Most AMV contests that I'm familiar with do not make a habit of releasing their vote counts (except, sometimes, to contestants for the sake of satisfying curiosities, and only on request). Why? For two main reasons. First, it creates unnecessary drama based on results - and like I said, we already have enough negativity focusing around the results rather than the goals/methods of this contest.

Second, it provides data that people are likely to read too much into - and I mean that in the sincerest manner. What kind of new information do you hope to glean? Like Todd said, it's like revealing the numbers for American Idol. Yes, it's somewhat like a popularity contest. Yes, some people are only going to vote for their friends or their favorite editors. You can't eliminate those factors from a Viewers' Choice type contest. (But what we CAN do is to help people watch as many of the entries as possible, so that we can approximate informed viewers' choices as best as we can.)

Vote tallies aren't going to reveal corruption or cheating. We, the admin, have better tools that help us catch cheaters to the best of our ability. And if you're worried about corruption on the admin level - well, there's not much I can say to that except this: if you're going to believe in any one part of a contest, it's gotta be the coordinator's integrity. Otherwise, there's really no point in supporting the contest at all.

I understand there's a "ooh, interesting" factor involved in seeing stats though, so I wouldn't mind leaving the posting of stats up to the coordinators' discretion from year-to-year - as long as they keep in mind the above arguments. But considering the time and effort it would take to collect and post all of the voting data, I can't quite justify making it a policy to post the tallies at the end of every contest.
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Postby Fall_Child42 » Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:55 pm

Did I tell you that you are awesome for all the work you did on this?

if not..

You're awesome.
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