The 2004 Viewers Choice Awards Results

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:04 am

Yeah, and the action and horror categories can easily be the sorts of videos that arent allowed on the donut.

Limiting to people who've apparently downloaded all the videos is just dumb, imo.

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:26 pm

Well, if you want to use any sort of vote-weighing system, download tracking is really the only valid method (from a technical standpoint). Unless you want to ask people "have you seen this video?", and trust them to answer truthfully. Since the direct links function via and org redirect anyway, it would be a relatively trivial task to count those.

For those that saw the videos as cons but didn't download them, there's not much to be done. Short of "have you seen this video?", there's no way to do that. And if you're going to take that approach to cons, might as well take it with everything.

Daio Kaji · Post by **Daio Kaji** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:29 pm

Kalium wrote:Well, if you want to use any sort of vote-weighing system, download tracking is really the only valid method (from a technical standpoint). Unless you want to ask people "have you seen this video?", and trust them to answer truthfully. Since the direct links function via and org redirect anyway, it would be a relatively trivial task to count those.

read back in the topic a bit, someone did mention tracking dls

but this was already shot down, just because someone dls a video, does not mean that they automatically have seen it, a lot of people leave videos dling while they're away and they don't realize the dl finished. sometimes people take a long time to just get into a video-viewing-mood so there is no guarantee that at any given time, you have watched all the videos you have downloaded

KEEPING IN MIND, i'm not saying EVERYONE downloads videos they don't watch, just saying that there ARE people that do this and if you're going to decide on whether they watched the video or not by tracking dls, it's not as fool-proof as you might think

Arigatomina · Post by **Arigatomina** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:05 pm

Daio Kaji wrote:...there is no guarantee that at any given time, you have watched all the videos you have downloaded.

Yep - and if you go with direct vids, all you have to do is click the download and cancel it after a minute or so. It will still count the video as being downloaded just because you clicked the link. Unlike local downloads, you have no guarantee the person got more than a few kbs of the vid - it counts the download on the first click (the same reason direct links give such higher 'download counts' - it counts every connection or click, not every actual download).

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:55 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Yeah, and the action and horror categories can easily be the sorts of videos that arent allowed on the donut.

Limiting to people who've apparently downloaded all the videos is just dumb, imo.

Almost as dumb as only watching one vid and giving it all the votes without watchy any of the other ones.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:57 pm

*watching

watchy? Damn me and my typo's.