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Last Link Check Info Displayed

Postby Phade » Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:59 am

Hey,

Now that the server is checking links, the results from the last check are now on display on the video information page. There is now a second line for the link info. It starts with "Checked:" and then will display the date, time, return code, and return text for the last check the server did. It will also be color coded: green = good link; red = bad link or down server; yellow = something else (see code/text). Hopefully this will help you before you go clicking a link.

Eventually, this information will be used to determine what links should be deleted. If a link is bad/server down for 7 days in a row, the link will automatically be deleted. Also, the link check will be implemented on inserting a link. This means that only good links will be put into the system and then rechecked every day.

Good luck and have fun!! ^_^

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Postby AnimeGuy420 » Sun Aug 10, 2003 12:01 pm

Thanks Phade!
That is definetly going to help.
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Postby Katsumi_AMVs » Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:03 am

HEY ^_^

I hav a GREEN line in mine indirect link !! :D

That's cool ^_^
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Postby Katsumi_AMVs » Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:29 pm

HEY :shock:
THE LINE CHANGE TO RED ?! WHY?

I'm online 24 hours a day and 7 days a week :shock:
Ans I checked the link by myself and I open my website with no probs....... :(
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Postby Phade » Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:39 pm

Hey,

At 2003-08-11 09:12:41 Central time, your server did not respond within 10 seconds. It could be responding now, though. The status will be re-checked tomorrow morning.

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Postby Katsumi_AMVs » Mon Aug 11, 2003 4:07 pm

Phade wrote:Hey,

At 2003-08-11 09:12:41 Central time, your server did not respond within 10 seconds. It could be responding now, though. The status will be re-checked tomorrow morning.

Phade.


^_^ Thanks !
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Re: Last Link Check Info Displayed

Postby WilLoW :--) » Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:53 am

Phade wrote:Eventually, this information will be used to determine what links should be deleted. If a link is bad/server down for 7 days in a row, the link will automatically be deleted


I'm not sure 7 days is enough.
Sometimes one can shut down their servers for weeks because they're on holliday...

I think one month would be better ?
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Re: Last Link Check Info Displayed

Postby marvin » Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:17 pm

WilLoW :--) wrote:I'm not sure 7 days is enough.
Sometimes one can shut down their servers for weeks because they're on holliday...

I think one month would be better ?

I'm sure 7 days isn't enough, if "remove" means "remove from db". If it means "hide on site", then 7 days might be fine, but it should stay in the DB, and reappear on the site if it starts working, for at least a month, certainly. (The idea that people will fix their links (on the site) is probably optimistic in some cases, and it should hurt very little to keep it around longer (but hidden)).
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Postby Phade » Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:38 am

Hey,

The best way to have the video always available is by using the Donut. External links should be for backup locations if the Donut bandwidth is overloaded for some reason. The likelyhood of someone correcting a link after a week of being down is not so good. An email will be sent to the video creator before the link is removed (currently planning on emailing on day 5 of consecutive link failed checks).

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Postby WilLoW :--) » Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:55 am

I do not really agree with that.
Our server which is at school has experienced some problems sometimes for several weeks. Yet the videos where still here.

From now I'm not a student anymore, and if the server is down someday, or if someone moves the video, I'll be able to contact them, but it may take time : The time I realize that the link is broken, and the time I can contact and talk to these guys...

Another thing is the 100 MB limitation. I have uploaded a 13 min video on the carrot for Animix. But it is a low quality version of the video, because the real one, hosted at school, is about 150 MB...

Finally, there are some videos of mine that I think don't deserve the right to be on the Golden Donut (videos that I don't really like, bad quality footage,...). Yet I want to keep the direct links, and not pollute the local server. Should I upload all my videos, even the crappy ones ?


Anway, this is not a real problem. If a problem occurs, I'll put back all the links when the videos are back, but it may take some time to rewrite all links for all videos (because obviously, all link would be broken if a problem occurs on our server)
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Postby marvin » Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:38 pm

Phade wrote:The best way to have the video always available is by using the Donut. External links should be for backup locations if the Donut bandwidth is overloaded for some reason. The likelyhood of someone correcting a link after a week of being down is not so good. An email will be sent to the video creator before the link is removed (currently planning on emailing on day 5 of consecutive link failed checks).

No, external links should be for backups, things that don't belong on the donut, or things from people who don't even know there is a donut (and probably don't remember the org).

I see two arguments for more than 7 days:
1. Indirect links to someones site, someone who has forgotten all about the org, but still has the videos. (And of course, doesn't check that email any more.) (Probably anything that isn't indirect will stop working because they rename stuff, anyway, you get the point.)

2. Don't make people work harder than they have to. In other words, don't remove links unless you're really really sure there's a good reason. (Yes, you as the programmer officially do not qualify as "people". Nice, isn't it? =)
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:57 pm

The broken links and the thousands of "link problem" lines are taking up really huge amounts of the database.

I think that's a good reason personally :)

If someone knows their server can be down for over a week then they can always set up an indirect link that will always work - to a geocities site or something.
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Postby §_Akuma_§ » Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:26 pm

i personally dont see why ANYONE would bitch about this. i think this is one of the best idea's i have ever heard. it will save dataspace and it will eliminate the possiblities of trying to download a video with a link that doesnt even work and wasting your time.

willow, you said 7 days is not enough, so you think it would be a month? a month is just too damn long. if your link gets deleted, fix the problem and just make another one, it doesnt take that much time to make a direct link.
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Postby marvin » Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:00 pm

§_Akuma_§ wrote:i personally dont see why ANYONE would bitch about this.

I don't see myself as exactly bitching.. Anyway, yes, for people who actually still remember the org, no problem with 7 days, even if I still think you should strive to minimize the hassle. But my other point is there are probably a few that don't, and if the links get deleted they *will* be lost forever. (And if the link is hidden after 7 days, but reappears magically if it starts working again within a month, how exactly does this make anything worse? (Except for Phade, and if he says it's too much trouble then ok, but that's the only reason I can see not to do it.))
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Postby FurryCurry » Thu Aug 14, 2003 5:01 pm

re: the link problem lines AD mentioned:

Could those be set to expire after 60 days or something, or be deleteable by the member whose video it is?

My hosting's decent, but a little sketchy, and while it may go down for several hours once in a while, or even 2-3 days once a year or so, I get sick of looking at problem links from last November. Ya, I KNOW my host was down for 12 hours back then. Don't make me look at it for the rest of my life...
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