State of the Org - 10-13-10
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
Still waiting for my green light. I know it's coming though so I'll be patient. I'm just not sure if I'll have time once I do get my green light. Guess I'll actually have to be productive when the time comes around.
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
Not yet, but when the time comes, there probably will be some user influence "needed", because last time I checked we didn't have any real designer among us, only programmers.Zarxrax wrote:Is the org currently being redesigned? (like from the ground up?)
Is there any way for us users to see what is planned, and try to influence the design?
And whats wrong with having a huge donation drive and then hiring a team to make the site?
As for the donation drive - we considered and in the end were against it, because:
- it would take too much time.
- there's no assuring that we'll get that much.
- it's expensive. A lot.
- Phade had some demands on the final code that probably wouldn't be met with hiring of a professional team.
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
(skimmed through thread cuz im lazy:D)
im not so sure the logo in everyones amvs is the "best" option. but it IS a good idea to show people where to get high quality amvs. tho its also a bit of a hassle depending how you incorporate the logo. its always a pain putting the Akross logo in your amv every year:/ tho not a big one.
and do we need more "members" on the org? or more active people? the org has quite a bit of members or people who are aware about it. but i think the reason why people arent active or fall out of being active is wat we need to focus on most. like how i always hear people complain about how hard it is to just upload. im constantly teaching people or linking them to the upload guides. then after a while, they get sick of it and run off to an easier site to use. obviously.
besides the ease of use, why not hold more contests? like amvnews' site, they hold several "themed" contests yearly. like level-up; experienced author teamed with a novice, novice does 100% of the editing. versus author; basically a one on one tourny. Do the M@d. Crossover. or just the general Big Contest. that way we can promote MORE amv uploads, a REASON to LEARN to upload and get good at it. and MORE "active" members from other amv communities to join in ours. why do you think russian sites like akross and news has so much activity compared to us? because they have better reasons to attract other communities members and to KEEP them there.
as for the logos, why not have everyone in the contests put the a-m-v.org logo in there contest entries if they choose to? almost like an unwritten rule to pay their respects to the org.that way not every random good or bad or ugly amv will promote or slander a-m-v.org's name. itll be more serious amv's representing. PLUS i cant see people putting the logo in their amvs for very long b4 deciding that their too lazy or their not just an org user.
-ease of access
-gimmicks to get people here
-logo in their amvs for our gimmicks
i think more things like contests is the way to go. get more people to come here, to be more active, and to spread the word. business cards are alrite. but the people who come here will all be active why? give them a reason to be.
not everyone might like the idea of contests since amvnews already does it. but come the eff on. introduce a community of highly competitive amv making and contests to the ORG community too rather than just that russian community. not everyone knows about the russian sites. org can target more people than news can being more known and widespread. so why not? we can always think of other ideas as well.
we could even have bigger contests for banners and whatnot. whoever makes the best poster for there studio or themselves. i dont kno. "we're more than just amvs...we're art in general....?"
just trying to brainstorm here...
im not so sure the logo in everyones amvs is the "best" option. but it IS a good idea to show people where to get high quality amvs. tho its also a bit of a hassle depending how you incorporate the logo. its always a pain putting the Akross logo in your amv every year:/ tho not a big one.
and do we need more "members" on the org? or more active people? the org has quite a bit of members or people who are aware about it. but i think the reason why people arent active or fall out of being active is wat we need to focus on most. like how i always hear people complain about how hard it is to just upload. im constantly teaching people or linking them to the upload guides. then after a while, they get sick of it and run off to an easier site to use. obviously.
besides the ease of use, why not hold more contests? like amvnews' site, they hold several "themed" contests yearly. like level-up; experienced author teamed with a novice, novice does 100% of the editing. versus author; basically a one on one tourny. Do the M@d. Crossover. or just the general Big Contest. that way we can promote MORE amv uploads, a REASON to LEARN to upload and get good at it. and MORE "active" members from other amv communities to join in ours. why do you think russian sites like akross and news has so much activity compared to us? because they have better reasons to attract other communities members and to KEEP them there.
as for the logos, why not have everyone in the contests put the a-m-v.org logo in there contest entries if they choose to? almost like an unwritten rule to pay their respects to the org.that way not every random good or bad or ugly amv will promote or slander a-m-v.org's name. itll be more serious amv's representing. PLUS i cant see people putting the logo in their amvs for very long b4 deciding that their too lazy or their not just an org user.
-ease of access
-gimmicks to get people here
-logo in their amvs for our gimmicks
i think more things like contests is the way to go. get more people to come here, to be more active, and to spread the word. business cards are alrite. but the people who come here will all be active why? give them a reason to be.
not everyone might like the idea of contests since amvnews already does it. but come the eff on. introduce a community of highly competitive amv making and contests to the ORG community too rather than just that russian community. not everyone knows about the russian sites. org can target more people than news can being more known and widespread. so why not? we can always think of other ideas as well.
we could even have bigger contests for banners and whatnot. whoever makes the best poster for there studio or themselves. i dont kno. "we're more than just amvs...we're art in general....?"
just trying to brainstorm here...
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
We can't hold most of those - mainly because it's bad to rip off other's contests, and ripping off ALL of them would be just... ewww.Overture wrote:besides the ease of use, why not hold more contests? like amvnews' site, they hold several "themed" contests yearly. like level-up; experienced author teamed with a novice, novice does 100% of the editing. versus author; basically a one on one tourny. Do the M@d. Crossover. or just the general Big Contest. that way we can promote MORE amv uploads, a REASON to LEARN to upload and get good at it. and MORE "active" members from other amv communities to join in ours. why do you think russian sites like akross and news has so much activity compared to us? because they have better reasons to attract other communities members and to KEEP them there.
Not really - taking part in a contest can't guarantee you that the AMV itself will be good. There're a lot of bad AKROSS vids with AKROSS logo in them - nobody knows them, though.Overture wrote:as for the logos, why not have everyone in the contests put the a-m-v.org logo in their contest entries if they choose to? almost like an unwritten rule to pay their respects to the org.that way not every random good or bad or ugly amv will promote or slander a-m-v.org's name. itll be more serious amv's representing. PLUS i cant see people putting the logo in their amvs for very long b4 deciding that their too lazy or their not just an org user.
Working on it.Overture wrote:-ease of access
-gimmicks to get people here
-logo in their amvs for our gimmicks
i think more things like contests is the way to go. get more people to come here, to be more active, and to spread the word. business cards are alrite. but the people who come here will all be active why? give them a reason to be.
not everyone might like the idea of contests since amvnews already does it. but come the eff on. introduce a community of highly competitive amv making and contests to the ORG community too rather than just that russian community. not everyone knows about the russian sites. org can target more people than news can being more known and widespread. so why not? we can always think of other ideas as well.[/quote]
We have something planned - it's a secret so far, though, mainly because it's not really sure it'll be done.
Studio poster will be possible in future, I/we hope, but then it will be more of a thing for that studio.Overture wrote:we could even have bigger contests for banners and whatnot. whoever makes the best poster for there studio or themselves. i dont kno. "we're more than just amvs...we're art in general....?"
just trying to brainstorm here...
But any ideas are welcome - some of them might catch on and prevail for many years to come.
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
I can confirm that we are going to be officially hosting another contest next year to offset the VCAs and Logo contests. More on that when the time comes around.Nya-chan Production wrote:We can't hold most of those - mainly because it's bad to rip off other's contests, and ripping off ALL of them would be just... ewww.Overture wrote:besides the ease of use, why not hold more contests? like amvnews' site, they hold several "themed" contests yearly. like level-up; experienced author teamed with a novice, novice does 100% of the editing. versus author; basically a one on one tourny. Do the M@d. Crossover. or just the general Big Contest. that way we can promote MORE amv uploads, a REASON to LEARN to upload and get good at it. and MORE "active" members from other amv communities to join in ours. why do you think russian sites like akross and news has so much activity compared to us? because they have better reasons to attract other communities members and to KEEP them there.
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We have something planned - it's a secret so far, though, mainly because it's not really sure it'll be done.
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
I for one, love the fact that we are shrinking back down to a somewhat more village like atmosphere. I like that we have scared people away because they don't want to hear feedback. Let us have the people who are really into it and/or have something to say, and let youtube have everyone else.
Its folly to try to compete with youtube. The org should focus on quality, not cataloging every video ever made. Let the org be apple, let youtube be the pc.
Its folly to try to compete with youtube. The org should focus on quality, not cataloging every video ever made. Let the org be apple, let youtube be the pc.
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You just scared me... D:Beowulf wrote:Let the org be apple, let youtube be the pc.
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
Fixed.Beowulf wrote:Let the org be the pc let youtube be the apple.
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Re: State of the Org - 10-13-10
Castor Troy wrote:Fixed.Beowulf wrote:Let the org be the pc let youtube be the apple.
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Stereotypes are not always false
So YouTube is the quiet majority and the .org is the loud-talking, annoying hipster douchebag with two-day-old stubble, a keffiyeh, the orange Timbuk2 messenger bag, a plaid shirt and slim-fit Nudie jeans?Beowulf wrote: Its folly to try to compete with youtube. The org should focus on quality, not cataloging every video ever made. Let the org be apple, let youtube be the pc.
You know, that's actually pretty accurate. YouTube isn't really quiet, but perhaps it can be conceived as a soundproof echo chamber.