More Bandwidth and Revenue Needed

shishlik · Post by **shishlik** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:23 pm

i know i haven't donated and i hope i will soon but i think the real problem with people not donating is that not many people are aware of the donations.
yes, it asks you to donate when you search and when you download but the way i see it, the site should have more talk and info about how much it relise and donations.
i think not allowing people to download amvs wouldn't be a good solution because i think the site's basic idea (and correct me if im wrong) is to promote AMVs and anime in general.
I see the problem derobert raised in advertisements but i think you'll have to compremise on that.
other then that i think phade's idea is really great and should work.
companys will probably want to advertise anime and video related products anyway since those are things people here will actually be interested in.
if i were looking for a place to advertise anime, wouldn't such a big fansite be my first piriority?
this site has always been a good source for me for amvs and also a way of making friends watch anime too.
i hope it'll stay free and download friendly:)
must donate soon...

SuperFusion · Post by **SuperFusion** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:35 pm

Oh, so you're suggesting that Phade make us pay for AMVs? I'd like to see him defend that in court.

shishlik · Post by **shishlik** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:41 pm

no i said the advertisements in the waiting for download part was a good idea not at all paying for the videos!

YouTube · Post by **derobert** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:57 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Dero, I think the difference here would be that Kazaa was set up as a commercial company with a profit motive. The org is structured as a non-profit organization.

Unfortunately, that's not true, as is fairly easily found on the <a href="http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corpor ... 211">North Carolina Secretary of State website</a>. If Org were actually a non-profit, yeah, it'd be much clearer.

Phade: I think at one point you said you were thinking of doing the additional paperwork... any progress on that? It'd also let us keep money from year to year w/o paying obscene taxes, right?

Zero · Post by **Zero** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:08 pm

SQ: Who said anything about a service? The .org could make it's own just like other sites (Such as Megatokyo, Bob and George and Mac-Hall to name a few) and target their space toward anime companies and the like. And you attitude towards the Donut is very negitive.

BasharOfTheAges: Phade never said using Google ads. Besides, they're too much of a target for fraud.

Otherwise, I'd say Phade goes for the idea.

How it should work: Companies pay for impressions (AKA, how many times it shows up) or time depending on how it's decided and from there the ads show up on the non-donator's download page using the "Target=Blank" part so it pops up.

I've said my peace.

-Zero

pen-pen2002 · Post by **pen-pen2002** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:13 pm

I have mixed feelings on Phade's idea. (I started typing my last post before I saw it.) It seems to be a combination of several other ideas. It is certainly the easiest and most low impact way of generating revenue. That is it will have no real affect on the org culture. It also gets contributions from the people causing the problem, lechers.

My reservationshave to do with making the org seem more commercial (please limit the ads to just that page) and with the possibility of increased legal attention.

The idea certainly bears consideration and some reaserch into the logistics.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:15 pm

Zero wrote: BasharOfTheAges: Phade never said using Google ads. Besides, they're too much of a target for fraud.

Woops. I should have mentioned I was replying to the post above mine by SpringBoy

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:39 pm

derobert wrote:
Zarxrax wrote:Dero, I think the difference here would be that Kazaa was set up as a commercial company with a profit motive. The org is structured as a non-profit organization.
Unfortunately, that's not true, as is fairly easily found on the <a href="http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corpor ... 211">North Carolina Secretary of State website</a>. If Org were actually a non-profit, yeah, it'd be much clearer.

Phade: I think at one point you said you were thinking of doing the additional paperwork... any progress on that? It'd also let us keep money from year to year w/o paying obscene taxes, right?

Oh, so we aren't actually registered as a non-profit? I didn't know that. I do see that we have 100,000 shares of common stock though. How about selling some of that for money :p

lordroba · Post by **lordroba** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:45 pm

How about some adds? I'm sure they wouldn't mess up the layout of the site too much. And why not, if every little bit helps? To encourage donations, you could also have 2 seperate layouts. One with ads, one without. The one with ads being for people who haven't donated. This site has done a good job with theire ads and it looks like that's the only thing that keeps theire picture downloading service free. I'm sure people wouldn't mind them if it meant keeping the site up, and having fast download speeds.

Kathreen · Post by **Kathreen** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:55 pm

I REALLY want to donate coz' I LOVE this site, but how? coz' I can't use credit cards or checks becoz' of a very good and long reason

How can I send cash and how much do I have to send?