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Postby Tsukasa-chan01 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:19 pm

I'm am looking for additional codec packages for Vegas / Vegas Movie Studio. Mainly the one's that contain additional avi codecs, in particular one taht will allow me to use bleach, gankutsuou, mai-hime, etc.

Thank you in advance for any help.
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Re: Vegas / Veas Movie Studio Codecs

Postby Moonie » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:24 pm

Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:I'm am looking for additional codec packages for Vegas / Vegas Movie Studio. Mainly the one's that contain additional avi codecs, in particular one taht will allow me to use bleach, gankutsuou, mai-hime, etc.

Thank you in advance for any help.

You must be using epiodes encoded in divx or xvid
Most editing programs don't do well with those.
Even if you make every frame a key frame (i tried that before)
you will still have problems.
Its best to convert your clips to codecs like Huffyuv
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Postby Tsukasa-chan01 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:33 pm

I can't even get the video to show up period, so I can't keyframe each frame.
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Postby Moonie » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:38 pm

Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:I can't even get the video to show up period, so I can't keyframe each frame.

Thats what happens when you use xvid or divx footage.
Sometimes it will work then other times it wont.
You need to use Huffyuv or something that works similar.
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Postby Scintilla » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:38 pm

Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:I can't even get the video to show up period, so I can't keyframe each frame.

What Moonie meant was to re-encode your video with XviD/DivX such that each frame is a keyframe (or I-frame) BEFORE importing it into Vegas. But as she (?) said, that's not an optimal solution anyway.

<a href="http://www.amvwiki.org/index.php/DivX_Editing">Read this</a> for an explanation of why editing MPEG-4 ASP footage is bad and some ways you can get around it.
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Re: Vegas / Veas Movie Studio Codecs

Postby Kariudo » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:39 pm

moonie211 wrote:You must be using epiodes encoded in divx or xvid
Most editing programs don't do well with those.
Even if you make every frame a key frame (i tried that before)
you will still have problems.

Its best to convert your clips to codecs like Huffyuv

DON'T USE DIVX/XVID FILES FOR EDITING
make clips using virtualdub(/mod) and save them with a lossless codec like Huffyuv. Lagarith is even better (but has been known to not work from time to time
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Re: Vegas / Veas Movie Studio Codecs

Postby Tsukasa-chan01 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:43 pm

Scintilla, thank you for the link.


Kariudo wrote:
moonie211 wrote:You must be using epiodes encoded in divx or xvid
Most editing programs don't do well with those.
Even if you make every frame a key frame (i tried that before)
you will still have problems.

Its best to convert your clips to codecs like Huffyuv

DON'T USE DIVX/XVID FILES FOR EDITING
make clips using virtualdub(/mod) and save them with a lossless codec like Huffyuv. Lagarith is even better (but has been known to not work from time to time



That is the thing I am trying to avoid having to do. It takes up too much space on my harddrive and I can't get my program (Riverpast) to convert completely, it keeps leaving bits out as just black spaces.
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Re: Vegas / Veas Movie Studio Codecs

Postby Moonie » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:52 pm

Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:Scintilla, thank you for the link.


Kariudo wrote:
moonie211 wrote:You must be using epiodes encoded in divx or xvid
Most editing programs don't do well with those.
Even if you make every frame a key frame (i tried that before)
you will still have problems.

Its best to convert your clips to codecs like Huffyuv

DON'T USE DIVX/XVID FILES FOR EDITING
make clips using virtualdub(/mod) and save them with a lossless codec like Huffyuv. Lagarith is even better (but has been known to not work from time to time



That is the thing I am trying to avoid having to do. It takes up too much space on my harddrive and I can't get my program (Riverpast) to convert completely, it keeps leaving bits out as just black spaces.


Do you have the Fddshow video codec? There is a codec that comes with that that will work. Its not a lossless like huffy though..
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Postby Tsukasa-chan01 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:55 pm

No, don't have that one. But will that allow me to use the video in vegas?

The thing I am trying to do here is to get video into vegas without having to convert or re-render it or anything like that. I want to just be able to drag and drop it. Everything else creates too many potentials for quality loss / being too big for my harddrive etc.
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Postby Moonie » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:00 pm

Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:No, don't have that one. But will that allow me to use the video in vegas?

The thing I am trying to do here is to get video into vegas without having to convert or re-render it or anything like that. I want to just be able to drag and drop it. Everything else creates too many potentials for quality loss / being too big for my harddrive etc.

Yeah, it will allow you to use your video in vegas but you still will have to re-encode it with another codec. I suggested that because you said you were trying to avoid the large files that huffy make.
No matter what you do you will have to re-encode the footage you have now because like i said before divx and xvid don't work well in editing programs
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Postby Scintilla » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:03 pm

moonie211 wrote:
Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:No, don't have that one. But will that allow me to use the video in vegas?

The thing I am trying to do here is to get video into vegas without having to convert or re-render it or anything like that. I want to just be able to drag and drop it. Everything else creates too many potentials for quality loss / being too big for my harddrive etc.

Yeah, it will allow you to use your video in vegas but you still will have to re-encode it with another codec. I suggested that because you said you were trying to avoid the large files that huffy make.
No matter what you do you will have to re-encode the footage you have now because like i said before divx and xvid don't work well in editing programs

Actually, there is one possibility that avoids recompressing: serving the files with AVISynth (which is covered in that article I linked to). I know people have gotten AVISynth scripts to work in Vegas; I think there's even a sticky thread devoted to the topic.

Of course, it doesn't come for free: the disadvantage is that this method will slow down your editing, because it takes longer to access a frame through an AVISynth script than it does to pull that same frame straight from the video file it's in.
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Postby Kariudo » Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:11 pm

please, just give up now [on using divx/xvid].
editing [rather...trying to edit] with divx xvid footage causes more problems than it's worth.

a [non-exhaustive] list of bad things that happen when you try to edit with divx/xvid footage:

1: frame inaccuracy, there is no guarantee that your sync will be preserved after export.
2: deploarable quality, if you try to compress footage that has already been compressed with a lossy codec, the outcome will be almost inhuman
3:divx/xvid footage tends not to work in Non-Linear Editing programs, and if for some reason they do work, they have a habbit of not working (this problem appears almost randomly)
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Postby Tsukasa-chan01 » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:47 pm

allright, I give up '-_-

Man.. this sucks... now can someone please help me with what the right setting in riverpast are so I don't get the black portions?
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Postby Radical_Yue » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:49 pm

Tsukasa-chan01 wrote:allright, I give up '-_-

Man.. this sucks... now can someone please help me with what the right setting in riverpast are so I don't get the black portions?



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Re: Vegas / Veas Movie Studio Codecs

Postby CrackTheSky » Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:50 pm

Kariudo wrote:
moonie211 wrote:You must be using epiodes encoded in divx or xvid
Most editing programs don't do well with those.
Even if you make every frame a key frame (i tried that before)
you will still have problems.

Its best to convert your clips to codecs like Huffyuv

DON'T USE DIVX/XVID FILES FOR EDITING
make clips using virtualdub(/mod) and save them with a lossless codec like Huffyuv. Lagarith is even better (but has been known to not work from time to time


Really? Lagarith is better? I thought HuffYUV was...
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