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Question on Compression

Postby Bluffmaster » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:39 pm

Ok i am making a street fighter amv and i rip my footage from dvd got from netflix and for some reason i dont now why but i compresse it to divx i think or xvid don't remember and i return the DVD to get Trgun lmao well so now i am stuck becasue the street fightrer is still nic equality divx 700mb but it is avi. and that means everytime i import it to Vegas all i get is audio and i dont feel like it to recompression and ruin the quality alot worse and so any help fixing my problem and i dont feel like getting street fighter from netflix again it is my sister turn the next mouth so i know she wotn let me get it so any help will be nice
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Postby Scintilla » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:13 pm

1) Did you keep the VOBs you ripped, or do you just have the XviD/DivX AVIs?

2) Recompressing will not hurt the quality... <b>if you use a lossless codec.</b> That's something like HuffYUV or Lagarith. Of course, if you do, you'll want to cut only the clips you need; you will NOT have the hard drive space to store the entire movie in HuffYUV or Lagarith.

3) Also read <a href="http://www.amvwiki.org/index.php/DivX_Editing">this</a> for another option (serving the DivX/XviD files with AVISynth) that doesn't require recompressing at all.
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:21 pm

I dont have the Vobs thought will never use that and my hardrive is 40gb not good but useful and so if i use the loseless codec likw huffy how am i able to what the word make clips if i cant go into vegas ??????
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Postby Scintilla » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:28 pm

Bluffmaster wrote:I dont have the Vobs thought will never use that and my hardrive is 40gb not good but useful and so if i use the loseless codec likw huffy how am i able to what the word make clips if i cant go into vegas ??????

You use a different program, like <a href="http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net">VirtualDubMod</a>, to do the conversion.

There's a handy getting-started guide for VDubMod <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/amvappvdubmod.html">here</a>.
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sat Oct 07, 2006 4:38 pm

well how do i make clips in virutaldubmod all it is good for it compression right
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Postby Kariudo » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:06 pm

read the vdub help that Scintilla linked you to.
basically you use the mark in and mark out buttons to choose a part of the video, then go to file-save as to save just that little portion
(to give you an idea of how much space it'l take up making lossless clips in vdub, ~350 clips (avg length 1 sec)= ~6GB)

VirtualDub(/Mod) can be used to mux/demux audio from streams in addition to being able to encode/transcode footage.

there are also a variety of filters that allow you to clean up video (though most of the time you'd probably be better off using AviSynth to do that kinda of stuff...but vdub's filters can come in handy)

there's also a company trying to pass it off as an editing program (which it technically can be. There is at least one video on this site made completely with AviSynth and VirtualDub)...so as you can see, vdub(/mod) can do more than just encode footage
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:09 pm

**** 6gb ok going to learn how to use the clips man going to takeme a long time is it hard doing it
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:14 pm

man is quality everything in a amv becasue 6gb is wayto much space for my laptop and i am going to lose alot of my memory and laptop going slow anyothe rway for me to do this man i cant do that many clips any other way guys please cant takeup the space guys
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Postby Qyot27 » Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:08 pm

Kariudo wrote:there's also a company trying to pass it off as an editing program (which it technically can be. There is at least one video on this site made completely with AviSynth and VirtualDub)...so as you can see, vdub(/mod) can do more than just encode footage

*cough* All my videos before July 2003 were edited with VirtualDub only-no AviSynth. *cough*

But generally, editing with VDub is incredibly limited and tiresome. It's much easier to use an NLE.
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:42 am

What is NLE
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Postby Jnzk » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:51 am

Non-Linear Editor. Adobe Premiere, Sony Vegas etc.
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:11 pm

ok and how does that help me
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Postby Kariudo » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:26 pm

it helps you because it is [generally] easier editing with a NLE than a Linear Editor

also, NLE's tend not to be able to handle divx or xvid encoded footage (which is the root of your first post)

6GB is a number that I got from my current project (it's almost done...I swear) that I've taken 342 clips for (encoded with huffyuv)...chances are that the clips you make won't ammount to 6GB (lagarith makes smaller files than huffyuv)...

but if you can't spare that space you could use bait and switch (outlined in EADFAG)
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... meth3.html
but I don't know if it works for vegas

the other solution is to get more space (a larger HD or an external HD)
external HD's are getting pretty cheap (even cheaper if you get a HD and put it in an external enclosure)

sooner or later you're going to have to free up some space so that you can export your video (since final encoding in virtualdub(/mod) is reccomended)
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:40 pm

when i finsh my amv i dont think it will be really big and i dont have anything to free up like i basically dont have anything i could get rid of
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Postby Bluffmaster » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:42 pm

and right now i cant afford a external hardrive becasue when i go to college i am going to get a new computer or laptop and going to have a bigger hardrive and i am a junior now so 2 years so i am not going to spent money now when i am going to get a nigger hardrive in 2 years
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