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Postby zarahel » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:34 pm

Hey you guys...first time caller,long time listener!I´ve been watching some of the WMV´s that you guys do, and some of the work is just amazing!Talking about "Euphoria",or "I wish i was a lesbian" or my all time favorite Jihaku!

Anyhow I was wondering what kind of software is used to make this kind of work...I don´t think windows movie maker is the most common tool used around here!

I really wanted to try and edit some WMV´s myself, but I don´t know what software to use...can u help me out!?
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Postby Kalium » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:40 pm

First off, they're AMVs, not WMVs. WMV is a file format. AMV is something else within the context of this site.

Second off, look. Here's a nice long list of assorted video editing programs for you to choose form. Before you ask, there is no "best" program to use. We get asked that a lot.
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:41 pm

Since you're a first-timer, your best starting point would probably be here.

It's a good way to get eased into the hobby. The reason I start you there is because you seem to have a few ideas wrong. They're 'AMVs', not 'WMVs'. .wmv is a type of container most commonly found in Windows Movie Maker (although other programs support the export of it as well.) Also, actually, a lot of people use Windows Movie Maker. It's a very basic editing program, but it has everything you need to get started.

Good luck, and I hope that helps! ^_^


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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:41 pm

Ack. Kal beat me to it. >_<
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Postby devilmaykickass » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:43 pm

Most people use Adobe Premiere (myself included), Windows Movie Maker 2, or Sony Vegas.

While Vegas and Premiere are definitely far more powerful and capable tools, Movie Maker has proven to be highly underestimated.
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Postby zarahel » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:42 pm

I´m sorry: i expressed myself wrong!I understand the difference between WMV and AMV...I just refered to WMV because every single movie I downloaded from here was in that format! I thought it was the mandatory format to be allowed to post here.

I´m gonna try adobe premiere and see what I can do with it...but after seeing all the talent in this place, i kinda got demotivated :( ! Still gonna try though!

Thanks for your suggestions...if you have any more feel free to post it!

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Postby Scintilla » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:48 pm

zarahel wrote:I´m sorry: i expressed myself wrong!I understand the difference between WMV and AMV...I just refered to WMV because every single movie I downloaded from here was in that format! I thought it was the mandatory format to be allowed to post here.

O_O

Where did you find WMV versions of "I Wish I Was a Lesbian" and "Euphoria"?

No, there's certainly no mandatory format around here, but WMV is one of the most common, the others being MPEG-1 and AVI (though hopefully .MKV is gaining ground these days).
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Postby EchoesofSilence » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:16 pm

zarahel wrote:...but after seeing all the talent in this place, i kinda got demotivated :( ! Still gonna try though!


Don't let seeing other people's AMVs make you insecure. Instead, let them challenge you to do just as well or better. It is possible. ^_^
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Postby madbunny » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:50 pm

zarahel wrote:...but after seeing all the talent in this place, i kinda got demotivated :(


Well before you give up and jump off a bridge, you might want to realize that all those great editors that you see 'used to' stink really badly at making stuff at one point.
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Postby Willen » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:44 am

madbunny wrote:
zarahel wrote:...but after seeing all the talent in this place, i kinda got demotivated :(


Well before you give up and jump off a bridge, you might want to realize that all those great editors that you see 'used to' stink really badly at making stuff at one point.

Some still stink it up once in a while... :P

Anyways, read the GUIDES, and play around with WMM or whatever editing software you may have. WMM2 specific guides: Scnitilla's WMM2 footage prep guide and Getting to Know WMM2.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:17 am

zarahel wrote:I´m gonna try adobe premiere and see what I can do with it...but after seeing all the talent in this place, i kinda got demotivated :(


I feel that way all the time. I watch AMVs done by the pros, and I think "Man, even if I edited for a week straight without sleep I couldn't do what they did." But then I realize that some of my favorite videos are actually done by amateur- to mid-level editors, and even though the pros can do some pretty cool stuff, I've seen a lot of highly-regarded AMVs that simply haven't appealed to my tastes. As long as you have a solid idea, you can make an outstanding AMV no matter the program you use.

It's better to start at the bottom, actually. Don't jump right in to using high-level, fancy editing suites (especially not Premiere) because chances are the program will either intimidate you and scare you off from ever creating an AMV, or you'll get so absorbed with the amount of things you can do that your video will have no focus. Instead start with something like Windows Movie Maker, which is, as devilmaykickass pointed out, very underrated. It's easy to learn, and it forces you to create a mood with your AMVs because you don't have the effects to do it for you, so you choose your scenes much more carefully.

Above all, create something YOU like. Don't appeal to the masses; if other people don't like what you've made, but you do, that's all that matters. And if you want to become "better", ask for opinions and see what more experienced editors have to say, and build with it. Everybody has to start somewhere, and 9 times out of 10 it's at the bottom. If you're dedicated enough, though, it shouldn't matter where you start, as long as you enjoy it.

So yeah, that's my little schpiel for any newcomer.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:22 am

Oh yeah, and Willen already said it but it bears repeating, read the guides. AbsoluteDestiny's video guide has been absolutely, positively invaluable to me and most others here, and it'll help you create the highest-quality video possible in terms of visual and audio quality. It takes a while to read it, and often it takes more than one run through to understand some of what it has to say, but it's time well spent, and you may just learn a thing or two about how video works.
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