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Vegas Question -compressing

Postby Skyspeed » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:07 pm

I did look through the idiots guide to Vegas, so please just redirct me to the right page there if I have overlooked the answer to my question.

I am making an AMV, right... but I realised, it's going to be Gigabites in soze by the time I'm finished. So, before I go making anymore, incase I'm wasting my time, how, when I go to "render as" (actually make the AMV), do I compress it so it is only megabites in size? So, what do I "save type as"? It's got wav, ac3, avi, wma, and a bunch of others. Under that, (in a new selection bar thing), it asks for template (Default Templaye [uncompressed], NTSC DV, NTSC DV widescreen, PAL DV, PAL DV widescreen). In each description of these templates, it says "uncompressed". So well... what do I do so I'm not stuck with a giant AMV as my final product?

Incase it helps, my DVDs are from PAL region, (I'm in Australia).

Thanmks, I hope I'm not a bother, but I really do appreciate your help.
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Postby Kariudo » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:17 pm

You should probably export as uncompressed RGB or as an avi file using lagarith or huffyuv.

you can then compress in virtualdub(/mod) with a codec like xvid
exporting from vegas
then go through post processing and compressing
post processing and exporting

and don't forget to compress your audio too (you can add it in later with virtualdub(/mod))
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Postby Xarathion » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:20 pm

Most of us compress it as huffyuv or lagarith when rendering from Vegas, Premiere, or whatever commercial program. For reasons I do not know, Vegas just can't compress into XviD that well.

What you need to do is read the last part of the guide about compressing your huffyuv or lagarith amv with VirtualDubMod.

To put it shortly, save the video as huffyuv/lagarith avi. (you can get these codecs from the amv app) Don't include the audio.

Then, while using the same render region at the top of the Vegas window, export your audio as .wav.

Open the video in VirtualDubMod (also in the amv app) and use the guide I linked to before to encode your video to XviD.

Open BeSweet (amv app again) and compress your .wav audio to mp3.

Go back to VirtualDubMod and attach the audio, using the guide.
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Postby Skyspeed » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:24 pm

thank you both very much!! I'll try that out asap, so I can get the hang of it.
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Postby Skyspeed » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:31 pm

I managed to render my amv into a AVI usuing the first guide, but when I got to the second guide, I got a vit confused. For somereason, even though i have downloaded and instaled Avsynth, I cannot find the program; only it's files, and an unistall thing. (I took a screen shot to show you the files)
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I have highlighted what I thought was the program, but when I click it, it says it can't find the program to run it in.

Here is a photo of my "rendered" AMV (well, what I've done of it so far; I am trying to figure out the whole process of maing the AMV and compressing it and stuff before I complete it in Vegas).
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And this next photo is of what I think may be the program I'm supposed to use, but am not sure lol.
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If the above is the program I'm supposed to use, how do I get my AVI file (top picture) into it? I don't an avs file, and don't know how to get it/make the script (I did try to read the second guide, but I was rather conused). Then again, maybe it's because I can't find AVSynth on my computer. I did install it, but it seems to not want to show it's face.

Thanks for the help so far, it has been very useful; but if anyone could help me with this next issue, I'd be very much in your debt.
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Postby Up In Flamez » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:47 pm

Avisynth doesnt have a interface like most programs, u have to access it through a notepad file

go to notepad and type in AVISource("C:\whereeveryourvidis.avi")

then go to save as and make sure to make the file type 'All Files' and say, Myvid.avs or whatever u wanna call it

for learning avisynth go here
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... synth.html
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Postby Skyspeed » Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:51 pm

Thanks very much, I'll check that out.
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Postby Skyspeed » Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:18 am

Okay, I understand what AVSynth is now, and have done part of the tutorial thing. All went well, except for one part. When I got to the part of the tutorial where it teaches how to use footage as a source. Here's where I'm up to:

Now within this text file put the following lines making sure to change the location of the file to your own:


DirectShowSource("D:\believe.mpg")
BicubicResize(320,240)


Where it says I put in the location of the footage (mpg or avi or whatever), I do, but I come up with this error:

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I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have tried multiple things, as whown here:

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As I wrote on that picture, no matter what I write, it comes up with an error message. I have also tried the AVISource with my AVI file, but it comes up with an error message as well.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I've highlighted the folder location in red, on the bottom picture.

Once again, any help is much appreciated and welcomed. And thanks again for the people who have helped me thus far, you've been very helpful :wink:
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Postby Warpwind » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:26 am

you've just forgotten the "quotation marks" around the file location. It should be this...

DirectShowSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Compaq_Owner\Desktop\AMV\rendered project AVIs\Believe.mpg")
BicubicResize(320,240)

Question, are you using virutaldubmod or just avisynth by itself? Virtualdubmod is a modified version of virtualdub that uses avisynth. I find it makes things a tad easier.

guide wrote:Avisynth Processing
This is, in my opinion, VirtualDubMod's most useful function and the main reason for its inclusion in the AMVapp. We've had a look at how you use Avisynth and I'm sure it seemed like an arduous chore to create these text files, load them up, look at them, go back and edit them, load them again.... Arduous no more. VirtualDubMod has a sophisticated Avisynth Script Editor that you can use to edit and see the changes in your avisynth scripts instantly.
When you load a .avs file into VirtualDubMod you can go to the Tools menu and choose Script Editor (or get there the quick way by pressing Ctrl-E)

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Postby Skyspeed » Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:49 am

Oh okay, thanks; I thought the quotation marks were meant to be removed (I got that from HTML guides, where they put quotation marks in to stop the HTML from disapearing so people can see it).

Hopefully I won't have anymore questions ;) Thanks!
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