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K not exactly Video Software, but could someone help?

Post by KenShimazu » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:51 am

i figured this was the closest on topic forum for my question.

I have a cable modem
I have a PC dubbing as the server for my internal network (the two network card thing...)
I'm next to computer illiterate, i can fix problems that pop up but teaching me myself something new is next to impossible these days for me.

I have 13 gigs on this PC which will be upgraded at some point

and i have a program called Apache which is supposed to allow me to use this PC as a HTTP server

this is where the problem occurs...
My internal network recognizes my Apache Server, i have a no-ip.com account which theoretically should work, and does considering that the internal network can connect to my pc when kat-translations.no-ip.com is typed into IE.

i had a few friends attempt to access my server through from their computer with no luck, i have NO clue what i am doing wrong, and the instructions from Apache homepage read like stereo instructions to me, meaning, me being the illiterate one have no clue what to do at this point.

advantages of helping me figure this out

free hosting, your own account and heck i'll toss in server space for ya (if i can EVER figure out how to configure this correctly)

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Post by klinky » Thu Dec 05, 2002 5:43 am

Okay well, Apache is a bitch to configured {shudder}.

My suggestions get OmniHttpD or GuildFTP.

Both are rather simple to setup.

As to why Apache is not working, my guess is that it's binding itself to your internet NIC and not your external one.

As for the cable/AMV distro thingy. I did that with DSL and it wasn't that great a solution. Anytime someone connected my intarweb experience went int the gutter. I had to shut my server down if I wanted to play a online game :\

I no longer run my server and my video aren't up anymore, they weren't that good anyways so it's not a big loss :p


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Post by klinky » Thu Dec 05, 2002 5:44 am

I meant, internal NIC, not internet NIC :roll:


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Post by gypsy » Thu Dec 05, 2002 7:23 am

I love the free hosting part but unfortunately I have NO knowledge on apache.

Hope you come right though.

Good luck.


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Post by trythil » Thu Dec 05, 2002 12:21 pm

What is the IP that Apache is binding itself to? What is the port?

What is your network topology like? (Do you have a router, firewall, or similar agent in between your computer and the Internet?)

Does your ISP prohibit you from establishing connections in a certain port range (usually any of the non-ephemeral ports 1-1023)?

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Post by KenShimazu » Sat Dec 07, 2002 1:09 pm

Basically this is the setup
a cablemodem, connected to a PC through a network card, a seperate network card connected to a hub - making the internal network for the other computers.

the network card connected to the modem is Internet Shared, so the other PC's and Laptops can connect to the net.

Apache (actually now OmniHttpd as suggested) is bound to the network card connected to the cable modem, i know this because the IP address set by my provider is the same... i can get the internal network to see the Homepage, just anyone else outside of this (meaning any of you guys) can't connect, even when using the IP Address..

I confused, i have no clue what to do to make this work....

Ken
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"Yeah just don't trip..." says he
"Don't...AH crap!!!" says I as i roll down MT Fuji....

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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Dec 07, 2002 1:43 pm

You have to open the ports up and forward the IP.

I have a Netgear RP114 router, and I had to do this. Basically, I set the router up to forward any incoming traffic on my IP to my internal IP, and then I opened the port the program(s) need/needed.
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Post by KenShimazu » Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:22 pm

being that i am a total moron when it comes to these things...how do i do that? (opening the port that is)
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Post by klinky » Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:38 pm

NickD, he doesn't need to open a port, since he's not using a router. He's setup probably using Network Adress Translation, something like Internet Connection Sharing.

I would try out something with a GUI :p like OmniHTTPd and see if you can get that up.

I am not sure as to why it would not work externally? Maybe your ISP blocks internal connection to port 80 ? You may try it on a differnt port maybe ^_^ ?


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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:03 am

Whatever, he still have to forward the IP through NAT though.
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