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Postby Listomar » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:16 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Listomar wrote:Is it possible to compress the clip so that the subtitles doesn't come along? Or is there a easy way to get rid of them? Wouldn't like to download all raw episodes..


You can use the DVDs :roll:


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So if you're not going to say anything useful, don't say it.


If you set it to direct stream copy, then it did not compress it to huffyuv... it simply copied the existing stream...


Ah.. Of course. My native language isn't english so I didn't understand it at first. So, what should I use?
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:23 pm

Listomar wrote:So if you're not going to say anything useful, don't say it.


Since the policy of the site is very much anti-piracy and very much "buy the damn dvds!" i'd say my comment was quite useful.
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Postby Willen » Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:43 am

Listomar wrote:
If you set it to direct stream copy, then it did not compress it to huffyuv... it simply copied the existing stream...


Ah.. Of course. My native language isn't english so I didn't understand it at first. So, what should I use?

Anything except for Direct Stream Copy.

Using Full Processing Mode also allows you to remove any subtitles. After switching to Full Processing Mode select Video > Filters... > Add... and choose null transform. Then you can select Cropping...

If you are using an AviSynth script for the subtitle removal, then use Fast Recompress instead.

Of course, using the DVDs would make this a bit simpler, the quality would be better and you'd get the whole image instead of a cut-down cropped video. :wink:
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Postby Hellmaster Inu » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:32 am

Listomar wrote:Quoting Eminem's mom: "Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana,
and codeine and goddamit, you little motherf*cker
If you aint got nothin' nice to say then don't say nothin'"

So if you're not going to say anything useful, don't say it.


He's right actually. You should be using the DVDs if possible. I can understand though since Bleach isn't out on R1 DVD and not every anime fan who doesn't live in Japan buys R2 DVDs. I don't buy R2s for various reasons and just the fact that most of them are like $50-$60 a DVD, which is way too expensive for me who is used to paying $15-$20 for a R1 anime DVD.
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Postby Listomar » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:13 am

First, I live in Finland, which doesn't have that great anime selections. I'd have to order the DVDs from somewhere else, and it would cost like hell to order them from somewhere else. Second, they're too expensive, and I would have to buy many different DVD's, which would become way too expensive.

So, it would be something around 200€+ to me, which is enough money to eat for a maybe two months.

Full Processing Mode takes space like a crazy person. Just a small clip was 800mt. No way Jóse.
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Postby Listomar » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:30 am

Okay, now I'm getting irritated.

I usef ALL the compressing styles. Fast, Normal AND Full. NONE of them worked. It just doesn't import the clips to Adobe.
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:13 am

Doesn't HuffYUV go nuts of the video's dimensions arn't mod8 or mod16?
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Postby Melanchthon » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:49 am

Listomar wrote:First, I live in Finland, which doesn't have that great anime selections. I'd have to order the DVDs from somewhere else, and it would cost like hell to order them from somewhere else.


Amazon.com's international shipping charges. Yeah, so you'll have to wait a while for your stuff if you want the cheap shipping. Big deal.

The marketplace sellers are usually pretty cheap. I buy a lot of stuff from them used (most of it as new) and I've never had a problem. I do read the feedback as well as checking the rating, as some people still give positive ratings if their stuff turns up late or damaged.

As for the cost of the source itself... well, it's your choice to use that anime. If you don't want to pay for a lot of DVDs, get a series that doesn't have so many episodes.

I usef ALL the compressing styles. Fast, Normal AND Full. NONE of them worked. It just doesn't import the clips to Adobe.

Open up an exported clip in VirtualDubMod, go to File --> File Information, and see what's there. I think there's enough useful information on that screen.
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Postby Listomar » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:19 pm

Open up an exported clip in VirtualDubMod, go to File --> File Information, and see what's there. I think there's enough useful information on that screen.


It just tells the specifics.. Lagarith encoded blah blah. Do I need to look up something specific in there?
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Postby Melanchthon » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:50 pm

Listomar wrote:
Open up an exported clip in VirtualDubMod, go to File --> File Information, and see what's there. I think there's enough useful information on that screen.


It just tells the specifics.. Lagarith encoded blah blah. Do I need to look up something specific in there?

I thought you were using Huffyuv? Anyway, that screen has the resolution and... some other stuff on it (I'm halfway through a five-hour encode and I don't feel like interrupting it). If nothing else, it'll rule out some potential problems.

If all you're doing is opening the original file and then compressing it to a different codec then I don't know what the problem is.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:23 pm

Don't convert full files to lossless. Make your clips in VirtualDubMod and import those into your editing program.
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Postby Listomar » Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:26 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Don't convert full files to lossless. Make your clips in VirtualDubMod and import those into your editing program.


That's what I did. Still not working.

I used Lagarith and Huffy both. But I think Lagarith is a little better, so I used it more often.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:34 am

So what's the problem?
You set VirtualDubMod to full processing mode for the clips and imported them into premiere at the corect framerate and everything, right?
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Postby Cloyce » Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:11 am

Huffyuv is NOT yet a stable video codec.
It gives me some trouble too with premiere pro.
So, if it doesn't work now, it will never work. Just Drop it.

For cropping subtitles, you can do it later, in
Premiere Pro. It's more easy.

Try [ FFDSHOW - MJPEG ] instead of Huffyuv.
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Now, select the codec in VirtualDub and..
1. Set the encoder to: MJPEG
2. Set the method to: 1pass - Quantizer
3. Set the Quantizer to: 1 (as parameter)

3.5. Video > Fast Recompress. For avoiding color conversion and
make the encoding process faster.

4. You can enable "Image Processing" from "input" to correct
the aspect ratio or to deinterlace your video source, if needed.
It works better than VirtualDub > filters.

Launch the encoding process, and you will optain a "almost lossless"
video file, good enough for web downloading distribution.
(in fact, you will encode your final video in XviD or DivX, and they are
both LossyCodecFormat! So, there is no reason to use LossLessCodecFormat for the editing. )

Have you solved the trouble?
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:57 am

Cloyce wrote:Huffyuv is NOT yet a stable video codec.

Uhh... Yes it is...

HuffYUV is about as stable as it gets and you'll only see problems if you install that one BAD version of it or use a video resolution that isn't mod16 or mod8, (I think mod8 is also included) because if you do that the files become sorta unreadable to a point.
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