Editing DVD's in After Effects??

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Editing DVD's in After Effects??

Postby y2kwizard » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:42 pm

Hello all. I have After Effects 5.5 and I'm wondering how I can import my VOB files into AE.

I have used ErMaC's guide to importing files into Premiere, and I can import and edit in Premiere just fine. However, I cannot import into AE. Is there any way to edit DVD footage in AE? I think someone somewhere said that there's no way to do this, but I just wanted to make sure.

Thanks a lot.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Sep 02, 2002 2:47 pm

Well, you could try copying the premeire import plugin into the After Effects plugin directory but I've no idea if it will actually work.
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Postby y2kwizard » Mon Sep 02, 2002 4:59 pm

Nope...that didn't work...does anyone else have any ideas?
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:05 pm

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Postby y2kwizard » Mon Sep 02, 2002 5:47 pm

hmm....well, Link2 kindasorta works, but in AE the picture is impossible to make out...but at least there's something there...I guess I just need to mess w/ my AviSynth script a bit....hope I can get that working....
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Mon Sep 02, 2002 6:00 pm

also, it can imoprt a premiere project so you could make a premiere project out of it, perhaps.
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Postby ErMaC » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:35 am

Now that would be a hack job - layout an entire AVS on a timeline, save it as a project, and open it in AE. Pretty nasty, but it would. Gives me heebie jeebies just thinking about it though.
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Postby Fluxmeister » Tue Sep 03, 2002 1:30 pm

Lol great idea... that's like when I set up a computer to run nesticle(nes emu) under a windows emulator on a mac... OMG. :P

At least it ran and the sound worked...

(yes I know there are emus for the mac hehe) :twisted:

However odd, you could always try renaming the vob file to mpg. lol... I did that with my mononoke vobs and premiere 6 actually opened them! The aspect ratio was completely messed up of course.
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Postby ErMaC » Tue Sep 03, 2002 2:18 pm

The problem when u do that flux is that then you don't have frame accuracy anymore. The programs will use whatever MPEG2 decoder you have installed - usually from a DVD player software package - through DirectShow to decode the MPEG2.

DirectShow decoders are not required to be frame accurate. Thus seeking to one place will give you a different frame than trying it again later. Seeking in an unmarked MPEG2 stream is almost impossible. DVD2AVI's project files allow MPEG2DEC to do it accurately. Pinnacle's realtime cards leave timecode data and such in the extra fields (comments and things like that) embedded in the MPEG2 stream as guidelines just like a D2V project file.

You just can't do random frame seeking with the directshow decoders.
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Postby Fluxmeister » Tue Sep 03, 2002 3:21 pm

:lol: Oops I didn't mean to imply that it was a GOOD idea.
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Postby y2kwizard » Sun Sep 08, 2002 3:01 pm

Nope, AD, importing the Premiere project file doesn't work... when I imported it, it gave me those colorbars with my avs file in the top left corner, which is AE's way of saying that it can't find my footage.

I'll just have to hope that Adobe puts some MPEG2 support in version 6
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Sep 08, 2002 3:21 pm

You know - I cant ever imagine a situation where I'd need an entire DVD in AE - you only ever use it for small scenes, all the rest of the editing should be in premeire.

Just make clips in huffYUV and use them. I dont understand why you want to use After Effects as a main editing platform anyway.
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Postby y2kwizard » Sun Sep 08, 2002 10:00 pm

I am simply an idiot. Why did I not think of that? I guess I just figured that ANY type of compression would result in a loss of quality. However, I now see (by CHECKING THE GUIDE) that HuffYUV is a lossless codec.

I'm still not 100 % on the procedure here. Can you tell me if I'm in the right direction? Here it is: I go into ye olde VirtualDub, select the portion of the vid I want to output, go to Video>Compression>HuffYUV 2.11 and then go to Save As AVI? Then in AE all I have to do is do my effects and then output as AVI using HuffYUV again? SWEET! Thanks a lot.

Oh, by way, I wasn't going to use AE as my main editing platform....I was simply confused....oh, well, I do thank you very much for all your help!
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Postby ErMaC » Sun Sep 08, 2002 10:10 pm

If you're opening the AVS in VDub and outputting to huffyuv, go to the Video menu and select "Fast Recompress". This will not only speed up your conversion but also preserve the quality as you don't go through a colospace conversion, and they will also take up less space.
If you don't understand the colorspace thingy, just wait til the next version of the guides are up, but we'll just say for now colorspace conversions are bad.
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