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Adobe Premiere Problems

Postby Cosmos Studio » Mon Jul 29, 2002 1:57 pm

Okay, I have been using Adobe Premiere 6.0 for almost a year now with 5-6 projects, without any MAJOR problems, just a little bit of annoying things, but no big deal.

Now, I'm -trying- to work on my next project with DVD ripped footage (which this is the first time) with like 702x620 resolution and 29.97kbps, I was having a "lag" problem with this, and so I re-encoded to low-res as Premiere suggests to do, and I'm now working with MPEG codec of 24kbps footage, with this I have gotten as far as having the music down on the timeline with some minor edits, and to have all of the footage I want to work with clipped out and put on the timeline (I like to clip out what's needed and lay it on the timeline before-hand), the video totals about 20-25 min on the timeline, which I'm trying to work with. This is the way I've done all of my videos, and everything has always worked.

Right now, after I have about 40 seconds of the video completed, I can't search on the timeline anymore. It freezes and closes down with the "Program not responding, end now" thing Windows XP gives you. I have no idea what's going on, I'm working in "Video For Windows" under the video options, and have checked other settings without finding anything wrong. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Postby Bushido Philosopher » Mon Jul 29, 2002 10:09 pm

windows XP huh?...

well my guess is that there is another bug from this 3rd party software....
i wouldnt go to windows XP so quickly. wait a few more months until they can work out everything with the software compatibility. they might already have a fix for it.

try asking Adobe if they have any XP OS patches/updates that you can get. otherwise, that's all i can say.
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Postby jbone » Mon Jul 29, 2002 10:14 pm

XP Service Pack 1, due out around August, could help fix your problem.
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Postby Cosmos Studio » Tue Jul 30, 2002 11:39 am

Actually, I've done 2 music video's since I upgraded to XP and they went smoother than my ones I made with the OS that came with my computer (the dreaded Windows ME *cringe*)..Any ideas on what coulda happened in the mean-time? Or is it simply this kinda of footage that is causing the problem?
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Postby klinky » Tue Jul 30, 2002 12:05 pm

What type of computer do you have?

What DVD is this that you're using?

Did you do IVTC in TMPEG to get your video to 24fps(btw it's fps, not kbps)?

702x620 is a strange strange DVD resolution.

Are you using AVISynth to get the DVD to Premiere?

If it's slow or laggy you can reduce the video resolution in half, by adding the line "ReduceBy2()" to the end of your .avs file.


Other then that take the .avs file into VirtualDub and convert it to something like huffYUV or MJPEG or another codec that works in Premiere, god forbid cinepack..(DivX doesn't work in Premiere so don't convert to it).


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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:06 pm

DivX DOES work in Premiere, jeeez. DivX 3.11a will work in Premiere, DivX 4.0+ will not. I've said this atleast 10 times on a numerous amount of forums, but nobody believes me.
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Postby klinky » Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:27 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:DivX DOES work in Premiere, jeeez. DivX 3.11a will work in Premiere, DivX 4.0+ will not. I've said this atleast 10 times on a numerous amount of forums, but nobody believes me.




you can import it... and uhhh move it around...


but the problem is that Premiere will crash often.. not on every project.. some projects it works wonders... other times you can seek in a damn file with out it erroring out like that and it blows up in your face and you think fuck shit...


Then DivX previews in Premiere have this problem of getting all skippy...where the audio plays smooth but you get like half a frame a second......

It Works! Yes sorta kinda! But it's not reliable.


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Postby alternatefutures » Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:29 pm

As long as it's Low Motion compressed. The DivX Fast Motion seems to cause lots of problems in Premiere, but I've had no hangups using DivX Low Motion as source.
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Postby klinky » Tue Jul 30, 2002 1:31 pm

alternatefutures wrote:As long as it's Low Motion compressed. The DivX Fast Motion seems to cause lots of problems in Premiere, but I've had no hangups using DivX Low Motion as source.



We'll say this "as long as the divx file isn't fucked up and you're having a good day, divx will work.".

I've had it work fine one day, then it doesn't work the next. It's not reliable.



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Postby Cosmos Studio » Tue Jul 30, 2002 10:04 pm

What type of computer do you have?

What DVD is this that you're using?

Did you do IVTC in TMPEG to get your video to 24fps(btw it's fps, not kbps)?

702x620 is a strange strange DVD resolution.

Are you using AVISynth to get the DVD to Premiere?

If it's slow or laggy you can reduce the video resolution in half, by adding the line "ReduceBy2()" to the end of your .avs file.


1) Compaq Presario 5BW220, 631Mhz, and 260MB of RAM

2) It's actually the rips from FFX using the utility that was posted on the boards a little while back.

3) Virtual Dub, did it by using some sort of tool (can't remember now).. I have also tried using the files at 29.97fps that were a 'raw' encode off of DVD2AVI.

4) It's game footage, so it on an odd 'wide screen' setting

5) I have encoded the files to MPEG using some sort of "Microsoft MPEG-4" codec. Which worked fine for the longest time...

I think that's it ^^
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Postby JCD » Wed Jul 31, 2002 12:43 pm

Cosmos Studio wrote:5) I have encoded the files to MPEG using some sort of "Microsoft MPEG-4" codec. Which worked fine for the longest time...

Ahhh! that's it.
Ms MPEG-4 is the original version of the hacked divx3.11, so it will work as bad as divx (as you can read above).
Use huffyuv-clips, they work much better. if you have low diskspace, use indeo, but it will lose some quality and will not work so good, but good enough.
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Postby Cosmos Studio » Wed Jul 31, 2002 4:51 pm

Ah, okay. I thought that might of been the problem. I do have minimum disk space, where could a find indeo (I'll go searching for it and probably answer my own question there tho. But an URL would be nice) Thanks,
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Postby afleetinghope » Wed Jul 31, 2002 5:09 pm

Indeo is/was bundled with Windows, the version I got is Indeo Video 5.04.
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Postby Cosmos Studio » Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:18 pm

Okay! I think everything is working now, thanks much for the help ^_^
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