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by **TaranT** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:04 am

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Updates, corrections, additions, etc. can be posted as replies to this topic.

The following list is ordered by operating system and approximate price to purchase.

Non-Linear Editing (NLE) Software

WINDOWS

Title: M2-Edit Pro
Company: Mediaware Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.mediaware.com.au/
Price range: Over $1000
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes
Comments: NLE for MPEG1 and MPEG2 files.

Title: Xpress DV
Company: Avid
System: Windows 2000, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.avid.com/
Price range: Approx $1000
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? No

Title: Premiere
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Available for $200-$300 with hardware purchase.

Title: Vegas
Company: SonicFoundry Media Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: MediaStudio Pro
Company: Ulead
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.ulead.com/msp/runme.htm
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Edition
Company: Pinnacle Systems
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.pinnaclesys.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Included with some Pinnacle hardware products.

Title: MyFlix XE
Company: Mediaware Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.mediaware.com.au/
Price range: Approx $200
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: NLE for MPEG1 and MPEG2 files.

Title: MainActor
Company: Main Concept
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.mainconcept.com/
Price range: approx $200
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: EditStudio
Company: Pure Motion
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.puremotion.com/
Price range: Under $200
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: VideoFactory
Company: SonicFoundry Media Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Screenblast VideoFactory
Company: Sony
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.screenblast.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Same as SonicFoundry's VideoFactory.

Title: VideoWave
Company: Roxio
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.roxio.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? No
Comments: Formerly from MGI Software.

Title: VideoStudio
Company: Ulead
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.ulead.com/vs/runme.htm
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Video deLuxe
Company: Magix
System: Windows
Web link: http://usa.magix.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: MovieStar
Company: Dazzle
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.dazzle.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: EVE
Company: Main Concept
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.mainconcept.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: MovieShop Deluxe
Company: Broderbund
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.broderbund.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: Home Movie Maker
Company: Data Becker
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.databecker.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: MovieXone Plus
Company: AIST MediaLab
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.aist.de/engl/index.php
Price range: Under $100
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: MovieDV
Company: AIST MediaLab
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.aist.de/engl/index.php
Price range: Under $100
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Perfect Platinum Video and Photo Editor
Company: Cosmi/Swift Software
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.cosmi.com
Price range: approx $10
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: DDClip
Company: SoftLab
System: Windows
Web link: DDClip download site
Price range: Free
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Pro version (shareware) is available

Title: MovieXone
Company: AIST MediaLab
System: Windows
Web link: MovieXone download site
Price range: Free
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? N/A

Title: Windows Movie Maker
Company: Microsoft
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/moviemaker/default.asp
Price range: Free with Windows OS
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? N/A

MACINTOSH

Title: Final Cut Pro
Company: Apple
System: Macintosh
Web link: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/
Price range: Over $1000
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? No

Title: Xpress DV
Company: Avid
System: Windows 2000, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.avid.com/
Price range: Approx $1000
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? No

Title: Premiere
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Available for $200-$300 with hardware purchase.

Title: iMovie
Company: Apple
System: Macintosh
Web link: http://www.apple.com/imovie/
Price range: Free
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Included with purchase of other software.

LINUX

Title: Cinelerra
Company: Heroine Virtual
System: Linux
Web link: http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
Price range: Free; GNU license
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Requires familiarity with Linux installation.

Title: Kino
Company: None
System: Linux
Web link: http://kino.schirmacher.de/
Price range: Free; GNU license?
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Requires familiarity with Linux installation.

by **TaranT** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:06 am

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The following list is ordered by approximate price to purchase.

Effects Editing Software

Title: Combustion
Company: Discreet
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.discreet.com/products/combustion/
Price range: Over $1000
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes

Title: After Effects
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes

Title: Commotion
Company: Pinnacle Systems
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.pinnaclesys.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes

by **TaranT** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:08 am

Updates, corrections, additions, etc. can be posted as replies to this topic.

The following list is ordered by operating system and approximate price to purchase.

Image Editing Software

WINDOWS

Title: Photoshop
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes

Title: Photoshop Elements
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: PhotoImpact
Company: Ulead
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.ulead.com/pi/runme.htm
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Includes animated effects in bitmap series.

Title: Paint Shop Pro
Company: Jasc Software
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.jasc.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Photosuite
Company: Roxio
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.roxio.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? No
Comments: Formerly from MGI Software.

Title: Windows Paint
Company: Microsoft
System: Windows
Web link: N/A
Price range: Free with Windows OS
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? N/A

Title: CinePaint
Company: None
System: Linux, Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net/
Price range: Free; GNU license
Grade: mid-level consumer to professional
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Linux version requires familiarity with Linux installation.

Title: Gimp
Company: None
System: Linux, Windows
Web link: http://www.gimp.org/
Price range: Free; GNU license
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Linux version requires familiarity with Linux installation.

MACINTOSH

Title: Photoshop
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes

Title: Photoshop Elements
Company: Adobe Systems Inc.
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.adobe.com/
Price range: Under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: CinePaint
Company: None
System: Linux, Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net/
Price range: Free; GNU license
Grade: mid-level consumer to professional
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Linux version requires familiarity with Linux installation.

LINUX

Title: CinePaint
Company: None
System: Linux, Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://cinepaint.sourceforge.net/
Price range: Free; GNU license
Grade: mid-level consumer to professional
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Linux version requires familiarity with Linux installation.

Title: Gimp
Company: None
System: Linux, Windows
Web link: http://www.gimp.org/
Price range: Free; GNU license
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Linux version requires familiarity with Linux installation.

by **TaranT** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:10 am

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The following list is ordered by operating system and approximate price to purchase.

Audio Editing Software

WINDOWS

Title: Sound Forge
Company: SonicFoundry Media Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/
Price range: approx $500
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Includes Vegas Video LE.

Title: ACID Pro
Company: SonicFoundry Media Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/
Price range: approx $500
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? Yes

Title: Cool Edit Pro
Company: Syntrillium Software
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.syntrillium.com/
Price range: approx $200
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? No

Title: Home Studio XL
Company: Cakewalk
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.cakewalk.com/
Price range: approx $200
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? No
Comments: also Home Studio 2002 approx $100

Title: Sound Forge Studio
Company: SonicFoundry Media Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Screenblast Sound Forge
Company: Sony
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.screenblast.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Same as SonicFoundry's Sound Forge.

Title: ACID Music
Company: SonicFoundry Media Solutions
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Screenblast ACID
Company: Sony
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.screenblast.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Probably the same as SonicFoundry's ACID Music.

Title: Music Creator
Company: Cakewalk
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.cakewalk.com/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: Cool Edit 2000
Company: Syntrillium Software
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.syntrillium.com/
Price range: under $50
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: Music Maker deLuxe
Company: Magix
System: Windows
Web link: http://usa.magix.com/
Price range: Under $50
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Audio Cleaning Lab
Company: Magix
System: Windows
Web link: http://usa.magix.com/
Price range: Under $50
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes

Title: Nero Wave Editor
Company: Ahead Software
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.nero.com/en/index.html
Price range: Free w/ purchase of Nero
Grade: low-level consumer
Trial version? No
Comments: Included with Nero Burning ROM software.

MACINTOSH

Title: Logic Platinum
Company: EMagic
System: Macintosh
Web link: http://www.emagic.de/
Price range: Over $500
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: Cubase
Company: Steinberg Creative Tools
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.steinberg.net/en/
Price range: approx $500
Grade: high-level consumer to professional
Trial version? No

Title: Cubasis
Company: Steinberg Creative Tools
System: Windows, Macintosh
Web link: http://www.steinberg.net/en/
Price range: approx $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? No

Title: Metro
Company: Sagan Tech
System: Macintosh
Web link: http://www.sagantech.biz/
Price range: under $100
Grade: mid-level consumer
Trial version? Yes
Comments: Formerly from Cakewalk.

Title: Soundhack
Company: None
System: Macintosh
Web link: http://www.soundhack.com/
Price range: freeware
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? N/A
Comments: Spectral processing only.

by **TaranT** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:17 am

Resources for Video Editing

Utility Software

There are hundreds of utilities available at various places on the Internet. Some good starting points are:

http://www.doom9.net
http://www.digital-digest.com/
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/win95/VIDEO_MULTIMEDIA/
http://linux-sound.org/one-page.html - (Linux only)

These lists are here at AnimeMusicVideos.org:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/quuguide/quu1a.html
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/software.html

Forums

All of the major manufacturers of NLE software maintain support forums. See the associated Web sites for Premiere, Sound Forge, etc.

These sites also have active forums:

Creative Cow has forums that cover many different software packages, notably Vegas and After Effects.
http://www.creativecow.com/

Digital Digest covers just about anything regarding digital video.
http://forum.digital-digest.com/

Audio Forums is for music editing and production and has forums that are dedicated to specific manufacturers of audio editing software.
http://www.audioforums.com/

Music and audio on the Macintosh:
http://www.macmusic.org/home/?lang=EN

Software Reviews

These are sites for DV video that post reviews of many editing software packages.
http://www.dv.com/
http://www.abcdv.com/

Reviews are also posted here at AnimeMusicVideos.org:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/help/software/

Some online retailers like Amazon will host reviews that are written by their customers.

by **TaranT** » Mon May 19, 2003 11:25 pm

Kmv pointed me to this list of free video editing software. It's on the doom9 forum. The original post is here, but I'll copy the list in case it disappears for some reason.

ABC VideoRoll
Dead product and no way to get a registration key so it dies quickly.

AIST Movie Explorer
Dead. Can't seem to find it.

AIST MovieXone
http://www.aistinc.com/products/moviexone.asp

Little documentation. Download is currently disabled (I have version 4.0 build 8327, the German site reports there is a 4.5 version) Supposed to be some free transitions but you have to register (broken). How do plug-ins work? Horrible purple color scheme though. Bleech! Wish it could be changed to brushed metal.

(ed. download is available; see the first entry in this topic)

Avid Free DV
http://www.avid.com/forms/info.asp?iTrackingID=7682

Avid will be releasing Free DV sometime in mid-2003 for both PC and Mac. Sign up for an email notification when it is available.

Axogon Composer 0.93.1
http://www.5star-shareware.com/Util...n-composer.html

This is the "before" version of MainConcept's MainVision program. There's also quite a following among the guys who do all those Lego movies.

CyberLink PowerDirector 1.1
review: http://www.consumerdvreviews.com/ed...tor/default.asp
CyberLink PowerProducer 1.0 VE (VCD Only)

For a limited time in April (?) 2003 CyberLink gave these away free on their website. Copies may be floating around the web. They're fairly large (12M and 22M) and required a registration number. The numbers were the same for everyone.

(ed. deleted keys)

DDClip Free

Free version won't work on Win2K with >2G available space in the install partition. Author won't update it. WTF?!?! That's about as useless as the free Pro Tools 5.01 that won't run on Win2K.

Digital Origin freeDV
http://www.dvchannel.com/ (free registration)

Dead product. 3 minute limit.

Heroine Warrior Cinelerra
http://www.heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

Linux-only unless someone cares to get into the source and make a Windows version (boy, wouldn't THAT be nice, especially if they included full VST, DX, AviSynth, VirtualDub, Premiere, and After Effects plug-in support.)
(Is there a free way to run Linux in a window? That might be a solution.)

pure motion EditStudio
http://www.puremotion.com/editstudio/index.htm

Some of the British magazines have included a complete, older version on their CD. We don't get those here (I'm in North Carolina) and can't find a way to download. Does anyone have a good URL for this?

Windows Movie Maker 2
http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/moviemaker/

Appears to only be for Windows XP.

Zwei-Stein Video Editor
http://www.thugsatbay.com/zweistein/

I've sent email a number of times but never get a response. Nice program but without source or a plug-in architecture there's no way to integrate it with AviSynth/VirtualDub.

--

Basically, I'm looking for a free NLE that will (preferably) support the DebugMode PluginPac FrameServer (http://www.debugmode.com/pluginpac/frameserver.php)

The best options right now seem to be Axogon Composer, CyberLink PowerDirector 1.1 (if you can find it) and Zwei-Stein. Avid Free DV looks promising, too.

There's also a "shootout" between some of the leading PC NLE's:
http://www.dvline.com/cfwebstore/tour/about.htm

Really wish the authors of Zwei-Stein would release the source...

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Last edited by FredThompson on 18th May 2003 at 10:29

Org Profile · by **)v(ajin Koji** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 5:22 am

ahem! er...very informative fellas!

by **Knowname** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:08 pm

note that such lists are VARY hard to upkeep but helpfull nonetheless, a video capture program list would also be helpfull. Virtual Dub or TMPGenc, free and HIGHLY suggested linear editing/ 'codec manager' programs, are usefull in releiving the stress while, maybe, making a very beginner freindly cut-and-paste 'Linkin Ball Z' video :twisted:

.

by **SS5_Majin_Bebi** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:21 pm

Knowname wrote:making a very beginner freindly cut-and-paste 'Linkin Ball Z' video .

Not funny, bub.

And check your goddamm spelling.

My a-m-v.org Profile · by **Saizuchi** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 2:47 pm

Doesn't every use Premier?

Org Profile · by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Wed Jul 16, 2003 4:40 pm

by **madbunny** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:35 am

For students you can look out for educational prices. I usually order my stuff through

http://www.creationengine.com

Heres a sample:

Adobe Digital Video Collection 8.0 WIN/MAC
(Premiere, After Effects, Photoshop & Illustrator)
AD81211 $469.00
(this gets you the full version of each of these programs, with the manual)

LightWave 3D 7.5 MAC/WIN Upgrade
(serial number required)
NT22513 $199.00

LightWave 3D 7.5 MAC/WIN USB
NT22413 $395.00
(The five pack of lightwave is 995.00, and it includes five usb dongles, so pool up five guys that want it and you're set)

Org Profile · by **Farlo** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:13 am

TaranT wrote:Title: MediaStudio Pro
Company: Ulead
System: Windows
Web link: http://www.ulead.com/msp/runme.htm
Price range: $500 and up
Grade: high-level consumer
Trial version? Yes.

the price at the site, for the box is $499

and highly recommended

Org Profile · by **Yorokobi** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 12:09 pm

Good thread, but can anyone help me with Ulead's VideoStudio?

What I need to know is... have you used it, and if so does it tend to crash every 10 seconds with a C++ library runtime exception?

If it is as buggy as it seems, are there any other STABLE sub $100 editors that work in the same fashion? Any that also allow panning/Zoom?

I'm running a PII 400mhz, but I find ONLY a recomendation for an 800mhz PIII or greater if your doing capturing (which I'm not). Never the less, I wonder if the BIG crashing problem is a matter of my PII being too slow.

I have 256mb memory BTW.

Org Profile · by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:00 pm

Taran, add Cinelerra to the audio editing list, seeing as how it was an audio editing program before it became Cinelerra

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