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Postby Mag Launcher » Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:28 pm

By the way, I pirated like every app on my cpu :twisted:
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Postby grayplague » Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:36 pm

Mag Launcher wrote:By the way, I pirated like every app on my cpu :twisted:


Why even say that!? :?

Are you just trying to piss people off?
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:42 pm

Because I want to make light of the topic before some stupid ass comes in here with all his legalities and turns this into a court room. Lighten up. :D
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:44 pm

amv people are some serious mutha...shut yo mouth!
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Postby grayplague » Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:11 pm

Mag Launcher wrote:... before some stupid ass comes in here with all his legalities and turns this into a court room...

Why is the person who pays for it the, as you say, "stupid ass" ???

In fact, I dont even want an answer.... its just a point to ponder :wink:
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sat Jun 29, 2002 11:25 pm

Did I ever say the "stupid ass" paid for the application? Hmmm...I don't think I did. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Arguing this point wll only turn this into a court room which is what I didn't want. LIGHTEN UP.

By the way, I doubt ermac has never downloaded warez before either. He never said he didn't, he just said to not speak of it here. :P
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Postby ErMaC » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:25 am

I have not paid for every single program I have used in the past, I will be perfectly honest. But the programs that I use on a regular basis and programs which I use that I couldn't do without I pay for.

Yes, I have a 100% legit copy of Premiere 5.1 _and_ 6.0. I own legitimate copies of Windows 2000, Office, Nero, Sonic Foundry ACID Music, etc.

What I am saying is that do not come to this forum and expect people to help you with pirated software. This site frowns on and does not condone piracy, therefore do not talk about it here. I have a feeling when moderation comes around this will be more enforced.
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:28 am

Yeah, so in short, ask for help with premiere....just don't mention you didn't pay for it. :D
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Postby ErMaC » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:33 am

The thing is 99% of the pirates give themselves away by answering questions which are obviously in the manual. I don't help people with anything that's in the manual and I encourage others not to.

If you're going to pirate something, figure it out your goddamn self - don't expect the people who DID pay for it to usher you along.
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Postby Mag Launcher » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:37 am

I agree 100%
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Postby EBwiz » Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:45 am

Woah, woah, WOAH people. I only came here for a small question, not to start a controversial topic. I've only been on the forum for a day and already started something, that's a new record in my book. Usually it takes like a month, and then I'm the one who joins in, not STARTS it.

Anyway, in respect for Ermac, I completely agree with him 100%. I do not condone pirated software, not in the slightest. Hell, I'm a prospecting Video Game designer, I wouldn't like people pirating stuff either, though I'm more lenient on it (If I ever do get my own company, I'm thinking about a policy that after 7 years, the game is free.)

The problem with your logic Ermac, about not helping people who obviously didn't read the manual, is that we're facing an overwhelming majority, whether they be amateur or experts, who pirated Abode Premiere for the exact same reason I did, that Abode extremely overprices them. You have a 100% legit version? Well that's great. Unfortunately, I'm willing to bet that 95% of the people here who use premiere do not, and that's being generous. So no matter what problem you help with, whether it be obvious or not, odds are you've already gone against your belief and helped a pirater, and that's not your fault.

Anyway, I just thought I'd put some of my mind here. I won't mention my pirated software again, and to be honest, Premiere is currently the only one on my computer. I have respect for the board's rules, and I understand where you are coming from. That's all that really matters in the end.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:50 am

In an attempt to be helpful I will say this:

The Premiere Help Files contain exactly the same stuff as the manual - they are just not as convenient to read due to their nature of being separated into specific topics etc - so they're not very good for browsing.

However, all the information that you need to know is there. I recommend just reading as much stuff as you can - it's all useful even if it's not what you are looking for. You'll find the answer eventually.
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Postby jbone » Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:35 am

EBwiz wrote:The problem with your logic Ermac, about not helping people who obviously didn't read the manual, is that we're facing an overwhelming majority, whether they be amateur or experts, who pirated Abode Premiere for the exact same reason I did, that Abode extremely overprices them. You have a 100% legit version? Well that's great. Unfortunately, I'm willing to bet that 95% of the people here who use premiere do not, and that's being generous.


(1) You miscapitalized ErMaC's name. :-)

(2) Adobe's software isn't overpriced, considering its target audience.

(3) Just because lots of people do something, does that make it right? Until you assemble an army of dissidents and storm/conquer the Adobe headquarters and rewrite their policies, what every pirate does is wrong, and therefore there's no legitimate reason to help the pirates.

(4) More people possess a legitimate version of Premiere than you think... and many people who can't afford it just use free utilities or less expensive alternatives. If you'd bothered to wait a few days and had read other members' posts, you'd know better than to make this grossly inaccurate assumption. While it's true that many, many people pirate Premiere, around here there are many more legitimate owners than you assume.
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Postby EBwiz » Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:37 pm

jbone wrote:
(1) You miscapitalized ErMaC's name. :-)

(2) Adobe's software isn't overpriced, considering its target audience.

(3) Just because lots of people do something, does that make it right? Until you assemble an army of dissidents and storm/conquer the Adobe headquarters and rewrite their policies, what every pirate does is wrong, and therefore there's no legitimate reason to help the pirates.

(4) More people possess a legitimate version of Premiere than you think... and many people who can't afford it just use free utilities or less expensive alternatives. If you'd bothered to wait a few days and had read other members' posts, you'd know better than to make this grossly inaccurate assumption. While it's true that many, many people pirate Premiere, around here there are many more legitimate owners than you assume.


1. I'm new to the boards, give me a break. :P
2. I wouldn't say that, say, illustrator and Photoshop is over priced, but I never pirated those. Premiere on the other hand...
3. Never, ever said that it was right. It's not, and I don't condone it myself. I would rather pay, personally, if I had that kinda money. Unfortunately, I'm 17, have no job or even a license as of yet thanks to dumb NJ laws...
4. Kinda surprises me, though in a way it doesn't. But every review I'vce read about premiere here so far has been from a pirater, heh... And remember, I did use an alternative: Windows Movie Maker (Which despite what people say, is NOT bad... just the XP version sucks) but had obvious problems with that... so I went with the next best thing I could think of.

Hey, can we drop this subject? I'm kinda sorry I asked now that I think about it, didn't wanna cause THIS kinda out burst.
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Postby xTrunkZx » Sun Jun 30, 2002 7:14 pm

Heh, people these days get so emotional when they've relized they've been jipped. I felt like that when i figured out thps3 was available for download. But n e way, does it really matter?

The outcome of a video depends on the users artistic vision not wether or not he/she bought the product. I say, yea for personal use Adobe Premiere is overpriced, i mean how many production companies(not web) actually use premiere? They use more advanced things. Adobe is more like... Dad comes home after your birthday party and sticks his dv output camera into the computer to capture... kinda product. But either way 650$ is way to much for premiere, i could understand around the pricerange of maybe 150$ because lets face it, you could save the 650$ up and build yourself a small studio in a few months (depending on your payroll). So i say, Pirated & Pay should come together in perfect artistic harmony and not discriminate because the size of a persons wallet. Goodnight Folks
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