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Postby Pwolf » Wed Jan 22, 2003 10:41 pm

i am looking to buy a 15in LCD but i don't know which ones are good. i don't want one that is too cheap that it sucks. any recomendations?


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Re: LCD flat panel...

Postby Knowname » Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:11 pm

Pwolf wrote:i am looking to buy a 15in LCD but i don't know which ones are good. i don't want one that is too cheap that it sucks. any recomendations?

KDS Rad15, check Sam's or Walmart :P
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Postby Knowname » Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:13 pm

oh, Samsung makes the best ones btw... less you want a monitor/ tv than go with phillips. (EXPENSIVE)
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Postby Koopiskeva » Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:00 am

Get an overpriced Sony one. :shock:

Make it Dual! :wink:
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Postby Pwolf » Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:08 am

if i had the money koop

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Re: LCD flat panel...

Postby Mr Pilkington » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:01 am

Knowname wrote:KDS Rad15, check Sam's or Walmart :P




Why? They suck!! Max resolution: 1024x768!
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Re: LCD flat panel...

Postby TaranT » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:40 am

Pwolf wrote:i am looking to buy a 15in LCD but i don't know which ones are good. i don't want one that is too cheap that it sucks. any recomendations?


I've had a Proview 15" (PL541) for 14 months. It's multiplexed between two PCs, so it's running from 1 to 6 hours a day. I've had zero problems with it. All the pixels are still working, too. It was $299 at a local department store.

I wouldn't use it for vid-editing or games, but for Web browsing and office-type s/w, it's good enough.

I heard that Proview also makes the Mag Innovision monitors, if that helps.

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Postby alternatefutures » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:53 am

Check out Eizo or Iiyama as well as Samsung. Don't go Sony. Not only are they overpriced but they also have some of the most lagging technology. What you are looking for:

Contrast Ratio >= 500:1
Response time <= 25ms TOTAL (some companies like to split this up into rise and fall time, add them up)

I would mention color fidelity but if you were to believe the specs there is no difference between any LCDs here. This you have to see for yourself. Tom's Hardware has a bunch of great comparisons that you should check out (www.tomshardware.com).
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Postby alternatefutures » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:54 am

Oh, and Viewsonic lies about their contrast ratio specs.
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Postby Mr Pilkington » Thu Jan 23, 2003 1:56 am

Why would you waste your efforts finding a decent LCD anyways? I use two of these bad mama jamas, and seem to be doing just fine. Unless you count the desk I shattered, I should have known a glass computer desk wasn't going to hold 150lbs worth of monitory-goodness forever. Oh well, a few dings and scratches but otherwise they are fine now.

But hell if you want LCD far be it for me to try to stop you. I just see not the point in wasting money.[/url]
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:38 pm

LCD is way better than normal moniters, especialy since they're flat. Mines get pure digital feed. The right moniter with the right video card can make an amazing presentation.

Sure you can deal with out like you said, but if some one wants LCD I see plenty of good reason for them to want it. And people like my dad only upgrade once every 6 years.... :? He did so from a pentium 1 a couple months ago, if he didn't get an LCD imagine what shit he'd have 5 years from now.

to answer the question of the first post, the Samsung SyncMaster is a great buy. It's convertable so you can stand it or wall mount it, and there are a series of versions. One has built in speakers to the stand, some varey in display a bit. and something to keep in mind price wise is these are very popular moniters, so if you look around you could find one pretty cheap, but if you don't look around you might end up getting ripped off.

For one without speakers on it, and has a digital and analog feed, expect about 500 dollors. I got mine for 400, but comp U.S.A. wanted to sell me a lower model for 600. Just remember to shop around if you look into it.
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Postby alternatefutures » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:26 pm

The idea that LCDs are way better than CRTs will be true two years from now, but for now low contrast ratios and slow response times as well as the high price tag make CRTs the better choice for video production and image editing provided you have the desk space. However, Samsung has the technology to create LCDs with 800:1 contrast ratios and Hitachi is reporting response times as low as 17ms. Both of these match CRTs but still have to come down the pipe to the consumer. As for the DVI input it's promise has yet to be fullfilled. Yes, you may get a sharper image (in many cases you won't) and more often than not you actually have to contend with lower resolutions. Right now LCDs are GREAT for any text-based applications (word processors, spreadsheets, etc) as they are very easy on the eyes, but there's still a lot of downside that keeps them from being a true replacement to the CRT.

In otherwords Jace, your father upgraded his monitor too soon. Hope he didn't spend too much.
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Thu Jan 23, 2003 8:46 pm

it was only 200 dollors, it was a NEC.

What I like about my moniter is the way it looks, even if you compare it spec wise and it's not good, I think it looks great. Like when you go to a T.V. store and all the T.V.s are on the same channel, you can see the diffrences. From seeing this moniter on display, the animated movies looked great, normal movies looked great, apps looked great, operation systems looked great. sure the SyncMaster specs say it's a good moniter, but even if they didn't if it loked the way it does, i'd be totaly happy. This was all analog too, I have it plugged in through the digital port.
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Postby TaranT » Fri Jan 24, 2003 12:49 am

You might want to check the store's dead pixel policy before you buy; e.g. Newegg.com will only replace or refund if the LCD has more than 7 dead pixels.
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Postby Jace Tsunami » Fri Jan 24, 2003 12:51 am

I've never had that problem, either there was a perfect picture or no pictre.... :?
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