Whine, Clack, *Crash*

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Whine, Clack, *Crash*

Postby Athena » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:34 pm

For the last few weeks, my PC has been doing a whine, clack, *crash* thing. Sometimes hours between, most of the time days between. It's happened about four or five times now. I have never experienced anything like this. The PC crashes and I am forced to reboot, but I lose no date, and seem to have no ill effects.

As yet, I have been unable to determine what is causing the whine. No fans are failing, I'm certain of this. The clacking thing has me worried, the last time I heard that, it was right before a severe harddrive failure that almost lost me Countdown (luckily I had auto-backup on, and so I did not).

On what I think is a related note, it seems to have started when I installed my new GeForce 5200, and I note that the heat sync is ridiculously hot (like touch it and you might as well have just touched the stove hot). This is the reason I think it falls under Video Hardware Help. Could my new card be overloading the rest of my computer?
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:36 pm

How high-pitched is the whine? And how big is your Power Supply?
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Postby Athena » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:46 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:How high-pitched is the whine? And how big is your Power Supply?


Pretty high pitched (higher than I can sing, sounded like and e above the staff in bass clef) and my power supply is roughly 10"x3"x2".
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:58 pm

lol, I mean the wattage :lol:

Though that responce made my day. :lol:
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Postby Athena » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:07 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:lol, I mean the wattage :lol:

Though that responce made my day. :lol:


You did not specify:

Says it is 250 watts.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:31 pm

Since you mention the video card is new, the first thing i suspect is that it might be drawing more power than you power supply can handle. Does your documentation come with any wattage requirements? the official site for that series does not seem to =/
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Postby Athena » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:58 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Since you mention the video card is new, the first thing i suspect is that it might be drawing more power than you power supply can handle. Does your documentation come with any wattage requirements? the official site for that series does not seem to =/


I thought I checked all of the requirements before buying the card...

I'm going to take it the computer apart tomorrow, clean it, and put it back together making sure nothing snagged or blocked or dirty etc.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:18 pm

Even though your video card isn't exactly a new top-of-the-line card, I think 250W is a bit low for you total system. I wish someone else with more experience in this area would post though... i don't want to lead you on a tangent. =/
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Postby LantisEscudo » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:44 pm

250W does seem very low. I had the same sort of problems when I upgraded from a PCI ATi AIT 128 to an AGP ATi AIW 8500DV, and it turned out to be a power supply issue. Most of the online calculators I've tried for what I remember you saying your system has recommended an absolute minimum of just over 250W. You'd probably be best served by getting a larger PSU.
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Postby WC Annihilus » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:19 am

Don't forget, with PSUs it's not only the wattage, but the rails and make that are important. Need to make sure you have sufficient amperage on each rail. The PSU is sort of like the heart of the system, it is one of THE most important parts. Low quality PSUs can equal bangs and part deaths.
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Postby post-it » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:46 am

.. get a 650 watt power supply - they don't whine 8-) and unlike a 250 or 350 watt, if the 650 power supply does not need ALL of its power from your computer then it basically can be more Power Efficient than your 250 watt. ( that saves on your electric bill. )

.. while building my 1066 FSB Gamers Designer Computer, the people at Micro-Computers said, "its almost flaw-less" 8-)
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Postby WC Annihilus » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:13 pm

In his case, not an option and also not necessary. Kio has a Shuttle (near as I remember, please correct me if I'm wrong) and thus requires a SFX form factor (I think, either that or mATX) PSU. Also, there are very few systems (personal anyways) that require 650W (heck, very few need more than 500W). Also, saying that 650W don't whine isn't true. A low quality or faulty (rare, but it happens) PSU can also whine and crap. A higher watt PSU is also not necessarily more efficient. It really depends on the make.

I personally think the most important factor for PSUs is make. You definitely want to make sure you have a quality PSU made by a trusted manufacturer. The PSU is the one thing you absolutely should not skimp on. At that form factor, I would say look into getting a Sparkle/FSP PSU.
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Postby Athena » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:49 pm

WC Annihilus wrote:In his case, not an option and also not necessary. Kio has a Shuttle (near as I remember, please correct me if I'm wrong) and thus requires a SFX form factor (I think, either that or mATX) PSU.

You are correct. I do have a Shuttle. And it is important to me to keep smaller computers, because I move a lot.

Now, kewp said I could find one at frye's if I looked. I found it hard to believe, but when I have the time, I'll look into it.

I personally think the most important factor for PSUs is make. You definitely want to make sure you have a quality PSU made by a trusted manufacturer. The PSU is the one thing you absolutely should not skimp on. At that form factor, I would say look into getting a Sparkle/FSP PSU.


I'll read up, thanks for the tip WC.
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Postby Athena » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:40 am

It's dead, Jim.

Something fried last night. :/ New shuttle time...
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Postby post-it » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:07 pm

.. a little late on this thought maybe ... older boards had some problems with Controllers frying the hard drives and motherboards --- can a Controller Chip fry a Power supply too ???

-- just curious!??
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