External hdd to tv for watching amv's:)

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External hdd to tv for watching amv's:)

Postby lister007 » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:24 pm

Hi basically what the title said, I have all my amv's on an external hdd and I'm looking for the cheapest way to play them from the hdd to the tv. I don't want to connect it via the laptop. I don't want to burn them to dvd first. I have looked into media centre, with build in hdd which is the cheapest and most efficient I can find so far. Like this sort of thing http://www.amazon.co.uk/ATMT-HV355-DIRE ... B000GTQJ78
is there a better and easier way? Remember it will have to handle mp4 like xvid and I guess even wmv, anything that occurs on this site, any extra formats would be a bonus. Think a cable of some kind is out. Heard there is a phillips media thing where you can transmit wirelssly from the pc to the tv, is that any good?. Cheers for your help on this one guys!!!!!
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:51 pm

Well, there's always building a media center from mostly discarded, donated, or cheaply purchased components and a decent enough video card.
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:49 pm

You can modify an Xbox to act as a media center as well, however it's support for more high demand codecs like h.264 is limited due to it's 733mhz Pentium 3 CPU and reliance on mostly open source decoding software.

I recently even modified an Xbox to run Debian Linux and use VideoLAN to be a streaming video set top box. :)
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Postby lister007 » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:04 pm

Is it possible to pm or email me with how to do that, xboxs are prettty cheap these days sounds like a good solution!
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:07 pm

I would suggest you just google for 'Xbox Media Center'.

It runs natively on the Xbox's own operating system and would be much more efficent than running Linux on it, since it's a lot closer to the bone.

As for modding the Xbox, you can do it without even opening it up, I had to buy a $40 'Action Replay' memory card writer to do it however.
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Postby Joe88 » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:36 pm

dont you need to buy slinter cell or some other game also to do the softmod ?
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:44 pm

Yes, my 'Xbox Shopping List' included finding the original release of Splinter cell $6.99 used at a EB games, an Action Replay for $39.99 from Zellers and $90 for an Xbox from a pawn shop a friend works at.

However you can mod the Xbox without the AR if you have a friend with a standard memory card and a modded Xbox himself. The AR is just needed to copy files downloaded from the net from the PC to the memory card to the Xbox. It's good if you're being all 'Do it yourself'.

...Of if you're like me and had no idea what the hell you were doing at first and had to rewrite the memory card like 10 times... :/
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Postby lister007 » Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:52 am

can I do this with a ps2?
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:46 pm

AFAIK Sony produced a 'PS2 Linux' kit bit it's out of production or something and it's little 300mhz CPU probably wouldn't be much use.
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Postby Willen » Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:41 am

DJ_Izumi wrote:AFAIK Sony produced a 'PS2 Linux' kit bit it's out of production or something and it's little 300mhz CPU probably wouldn't be much use.

From http://playstation2-linux.com/
My First Build of MPlayer For PS2
PlayStation Applications - beter_hans - 2006-Oct-29 10:27
Yo~
here's a very early build. CLI MODE Only.
you can play MP3 WMA etc.. with any bitrate.
and its also with AVI MPEG DIVX XVID ..etc support. but don't try it.
the PS2 system is too slow for it
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There is always the PS3 - runs Linux, fairly powerful, but expensive. You could get a Mac Mini or a similar Windows PC knock-off (AOpen Mini PC) for about the same price. These solutions are about double the price of the item lister007 linked to, but they are fully functioning machines that are able to do much more than just play video and audio.

Then there is Apple TV. :|
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:28 pm

Yes, while the PS3 certialy would have the juice to be a personal video box, that's a bit overkill since it's fairly costly. You'd do better to built a PC for less or just shell out like $200 for a former corporately leased PC used at some PC store that sells em and use it as a multimedia PC.
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Postby lister007 » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:13 am

I'm thinking multimedia pc is the way to go here, not only will it be easily upgradable spec wise if I get the money, but codec wise it is the best option, really just find alot of media conversion timely and costly (reducing quality) ( putting things on dvd from any format takes alot of time imo and converting to mp4 for other things seems to suck also, even the best multimedia players I've seen will not play an mkv or vp6 files) can't think of a better way to go than a media pc.

Just out of interest how programable is the ps3, like for codecs and os? if I get one how easy is it to make modifications? Also is the 360 an option, trying to get away from windows though.
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Postby Willen » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:02 am

lister007 wrote:I'm thinking multimedia pc is the way to go here, not only will it be easily upgradable spec wise if I get the money, but codec wise it is the best option, really just find alot of media conversion timely and costly (reducing quality) ( putting things on dvd from any format takes alot of time imo and converting to mp4 for other things seems to suck also, even the best multimedia players I've seen will not play an mkv or vp6 files) can't think of a better way to go than a media pc.

If you have some spare parts lying around, and assuming that they are up to snuff, a multimedia PC is the best solution. You'll probably want a quiet, small case to put it in. And the processor should be powerful enough to handle H.264 decoding for the increasing number of MP4 videos available that use that codec.

lister007 wrote:Just out of interest how programable is the ps3, like for codecs and os? if I get one how easy is it to make modifications?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Linux
Among other Linux distributions, Ubuntu, Fedora Core 5, Gentoo, Debian, and Yellow Dog have been run on the PS3.

http://www.t3.co.uk/news/247/games/play ... ns_windows :lol:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 0606286092 :shock: (Warning, the google video is long, at almost 16 minutes.)

If you want a bigger hard drive, you can easily swap out the internal one with a standard 2.5" SATA 'notebook' drive like a 200GB 4500 rpm Toshiba model or a 160GB 5400 rpm one from WD, Seagate, or Hitachi. It will also recognize external USB 2.0 hard drives.

lister007 wrote:Also is the 360 an option, trying to get away from windows though.

Unless you are willing to do some actual hacking, not really. http://www.hackaday.com/2007/03/20/xbox ... -released/
Plus, if the Xbox 360 gets updated and patched (which happens every few months if you have it connected to the network, or load a recently released game), then you're boned.
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:41 pm

However, can't the Xbox 360 connect to a windows machine and use some sorta Microsoft produced software that does live conversion and stream WMV3/VC-1 video to the Xbox for video playback?

I know the Xbox had the 'Xbox Media Center Extender' produced by Microsoft but I have no experiance with it.
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Postby Willen » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:59 am

DJ_Izumi wrote:However, can't the Xbox 360 connect to a windows machine and use some sorta Microsoft produced software that does live conversion and stream WMV3/VC-1 video to the Xbox for video playback?

I know the Xbox had the 'Xbox Media Center Extender' produced by Microsoft but I have no experiance with it.

Yes, but to use it with the Xbox 360 the computer must be running Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 with Update Rollup 2. And you can't upgrade any computer to WinXPMCE as MCE is only available pre-installed or as an OEM version.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/medi ... cefaq.mspx

And currently, it only supports streaming these formats:

What types of media stored on my Media Center PC can I access through my Xbox 360?
Live and recorded TV, digital photos, digital music, home video, and exclusive online multimedia content such as news clips, downloadable music, local weather, RSS feeds, and more (through Online Spotlight).

Video formats

* MPEG-1 with MPEG audio
* MPEG-2 with MPEG audio or AC-3 audio
* WMV 7, 8, & 9 with WMA Standard or WMA Pro audio
* WMV Image 1 & 2 (Photo Story 1, 2, & 3)

Audio formats

* Windows Media Audio (WMA) Standard
* WMA Pro
* WMA Lossless
* MP3

This may change due to upgrades expected in the next spring update which includes:
* Added H.264 video support: Up to 10 Mbps peak, Baseline, Main, and High profiles with 2 channel AAC LC.

* Added MPEG-4 Part 2 video support: Up to 5 Mbps peak, Simple Profile with 2 channel AAC LC.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/new ... 408-im.htm
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6870

These changes may not affect Xbox Media Center Extender functionality so you may still be stuck with MPEG and WMV streaming.
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