bloodyfang wrote:i just though i'd ask cause you said nothing about looking anywhere but hte forum and alot of people miss the search/software/hardware links.

It's no big deal... At first glance it looks like the 8500dv might be there with a slightly abreviated name. But after reading through the couple of entries that could be it, they are either definitely not about the same card, or not enough information is given in the review to make a determination.
Sub0 wrote:the AIW 8500DV uses the same vdo chip (Rage Theatre) since the original All in wonder. Only thing that has changed from the original AIW to the 8500 versions are the graphics core... well the 8500dv does have a digital tuner but that is all that's different.
www.tomshardware.com would have a thourough review of the card and all or it's features for a given (INTEL, that intel hoar-bunny...) processor.
The AIW 9700 is different as it uses the Rage Theatre 2 chip.
hmmm.... well in that case, I guess some of the reviews are kinda useful then. Seems like it will take a little tweaking to get the best out of the video input features of the 8500dv. I just wish that the reviews for the other AIW cards were more detailed. Hopefully some of the problems that were mentioned have been solved with newer drivers.
Oh well, it looks like my friend has already ordered the card anyway. So, it looks like we will find out how good it is first hand. Maybe I'll post a review.