RAM = Overrated

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Postby NeoQuixotic » Thu May 26, 2005 4:10 pm

FurryCurry wrote:Notice he said RDRAM. As in Rambus. That means in some computers, or perhaps all, you have to add the memory in pairs, and unused slots require special terminators to be placed in them.

Yeah, I have to install in pairs and if the slots aren't used I need to place continuity modules in them.
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Postby Digitalex » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:49 pm

mckeed wrote:I encourage everyone to take a look at your task manager next time you render and see how much memory the application takes up versus your total memory. If you see it getting close to max, then upgrade your RAM if it doesn't, then your fine. There is no point spending money on something that you don't need.


I use the RAMpage utility to see what memory is being used up (I have 1GB). The processor power (P4 2.4GHz) and hard drives (ATA100 7200RPM 8MB cache) are definitely the limiting factor on my own machine. I initially thought about buying more memory before checking out how much I was really using. I had over 500MB of RAM available during my video processing.

I am now looking into getting a dual processor setup for my next machine.
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Postby mckeed » Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:44 pm

Digitalex wrote:
mckeed wrote:I encourage everyone to take a look at your task manager next time you render and see how much memory the application takes up versus your total memory. If you see it getting close to max, then upgrade your RAM if it doesn't, then your fine. There is no point spending money on something that you don't need.


I use the RAMpage utility to see what memory is being used up (I have 1GB). The processor power (P4 2.4GHz) and hard drives (ATA100 7200RPM 8MB cache) are definitely the limiting factor on my own machine. I initially thought about buying more memory before checking out how much I was really using. I had over 500MB of RAM available during my video processing.

I am now looking into getting a dual processor setup for my next machine.


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Postby The14thGOD » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:24 pm

theres got to be some kind of exception isnt there? becuase i went from 1gb of ram to 2gb of ram and when i checked i was using 72% of ram, with all the same stuff i have running normally, so that would be approx 1474.56 ram...
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Postby The14thGOD » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:25 pm

1474.56 mb of ram*
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Postby mckeed » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:16 am

did you see what programs were using what parts of the RAM? Windows has a nasty habbit of grabbing ram when it really doesn't need it. Many programs allocate RAM when they aren't usign it as a reserve just in case you need it later. Also, windows caches programs in ram that you've opened and closed them just in case you will run them again. To really do this test you need to only have the minimal amount of programs open. Close all system tray stuff and whatnot and see what utilization is at idle. Then render and see what happens.
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Postby The14thGOD » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:22 pm

mckeed wrote:did you see what programs were using what parts of the RAM? Windows has a nasty habbit of grabbing ram when it really doesn't need it. Many programs allocate RAM when they aren't usign it as a reserve just in case you need it later. Also, windows caches programs in ram that you've opened and closed them just in case you will run them again. To really do this test you need to only have the minimal amount of programs open. Close all system tray stuff and whatnot and see what utilization is at idle. Then render and see what happens.

i know that already =P but b4 i start on a video i usueally have it just restarted or turned on unless i go to do something small
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Postby mckeed » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:23 pm

I checked my task manager and i was about 75% as well. I think certain programs just grab a certain percentage of ram at the get go rather than a set ammount. To really know what is going on you'd have to run perfmon and see how many pages to disk are going on. That would tell you if you were swaping alot which would tell you that you need more RAM.
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Postby Kalium » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:56 pm

mckeed wrote:I checked my task manager and i was about 75% as well. I think certain programs just grab a certain percentage of ram at the get go rather than a set ammount. To really know what is going on you'd have to run perfmon and see how many pages to disk are going on. That would tell you if you were swaping alot which would tell you that you need more RAM.

Some days, I suspect Windows defaults to 50%.
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Postby The14thGOD » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:40 pm

hmm, when my computer loads, and i have everything loaded that i would load, not including video editing stuff, im usueally in the 23-28% range which would turn to be like 500mb and half of 1gb...
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Postby klinky » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:12 am

I would like to point out that usually RAM & HDD are not the bottleneck in the system but that Adobe is usually an inefficient POS.
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Postby klinky » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:12 am

I meant Adobe Software...

CURSES YOU NON-EXISTANT EDIT BUTTON!
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