Buying seperate hard drive practical?

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Buying seperate hard drive practical?

Postby EBwiz » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:26 pm

Ok, the situation:

I'm running a 1.8GHz Pentium 4 (Actually it's a 2.4 but I have to keep it underclocked due to bad RAM I have yet to replace, but that's a seperate story), 512MB DDR RAM and an 80GB hard drive... I'm having trouble right now with my newest video is that with the new quality techniques I'm using, I can no longer directly edit with the vob files, it's too slow, so I need to make clips. However, HuffyUV clips take up ALOT of space as I'm sure you all know. Even with alot of my files backed up, with the vobs and the clips, I have about 10 gigs left... There's a couple of more gigs I could free up, but not enough to make clips of everything. (I'm currently using Battle Atheletes Victory, an 8 DVD series) and it's a problem I know I'll have with future videos as well, so I'm thinking of investing in a 2nd, internal hard drive strictly for video purposes. My question is, how practical is that, would I need a fast hard drive, ETC? The one I'm looking at now is another 80GB hard drive with an RPM of 7200 for about 90 some dollars on eBay, which includes shipping. I can get a larger, cheaper one, but it would be slower. Is this a good idea, and if it is, does anyone have any suggestions on what kind of hard drive I should look into?
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Postby Scintilla » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:44 pm

You could get a 7200 RPM 80GB hard drive (I think it was WD or Maxtor, I'm not talking no-name brands) for less than that at your local Best Buy. In any case, if you're paying more than a dollar per gig, you're probably overpaying, from what I've seen.
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Postby Corran » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:55 pm

I currently have three internal harddrives and one external. My recommendation is the more harddrive space the better for this hobby. I not only have multiple series ripped and ready to edit but I'm able to keep just about everything I download without having to worry about deleting it...


http://www.slickdeals.net/
I suggest checking here often and don't settle for the drives you are looking at currently. I managed to get a 160GB harddrive for about 70 bucks (without rebates) through a deal posted on that site. Deals like that aren't exactly common(well... when I got my harddrives...) but they do show up, more so now that the price of harddrives continues to drop. Looking at the site now I can find stuff you'd probably be interested in. (Such as the "Maxtor 160GB SATA Hard Drive w/ SATA PCI Card $70 shipped") Be sure to act fast on deals like that though. A lot of people jump at the good ones and they therefore tend to go quickly.
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Postby EBwiz » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:05 pm

Thanks both of you. That was a really big help.

::Currently drooling over a WD 200GB, 7200 RPM Hard drive for $99.75, inc. shipping::
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Postby oldwrench » Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:21 pm

Here's another one to check out. I buy from these guys and haven't had any trouble. It's an oem boxed drive, you probably have an open connector on a drive cable, but you need to download the software available on their additional resoursces tab on the page.

A new drive will probably be faster than the drive you have and ATA 100 is fast enough.

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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:49 pm

Scintilla wrote:You could get a 7200 RPM 80GB hard drive (I think it was WD or Maxtor, I'm not talking no-name brands) for less than that at your local Best Buy. In any case, if you're paying more than a dollar per gig, you're probably overpaying, from what I've seen.


Ick. ICK ICK ICK ICK!!! :? :?

Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.
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Postby Corran » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:59 pm

I've had absolutely no problems with the four WD and Maxtor harddrives that I own... Or any of the previous ones I had for that matter. I know problems are possible but that kind of stuff happens with any harddrive manufacturer. And if something does happen you can get it replaced. (Provided you register for the warrenty, which I'm not sure if an oem drive qualifies for... worth looking into.)
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Postby Kalium » Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:28 pm

Corran wrote:(Provided you register for the warrenty, which I'm not sure if an oem drive qualifies for... worth looking into.)

Most companies will honor warranties even if you don't register, as long as you provide some proof of purchase during the timeframe. Other companies, like Seagate, offer warranties for the life of the drive.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:21 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:
Scintilla wrote:You could get a 7200 RPM 80GB hard drive (I think it was WD or Maxtor, I'm not talking no-name brands) for less than that at your local Best Buy. In any case, if you're paying more than a dollar per gig, you're probably overpaying, from what I've seen.


Ick. ICK ICK ICK ICK!!! :? :?

Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.


Bullshit.

2 of my 7 WD drives have failed me in over 6 years of computing...both were ENTIRELY my fault. I RMA'd one, got a new HD within 4 weeks. I then RMA'd the other one about a year later, got a new HD within, again, 4 weeks.

Trust me, Western Digitals work absolutely perfect.
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Postby bum » Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:07 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.


my 20GB maxtor served me for almost 3 years as a master drive, and i never has a single problem with it.
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Postby Jnzk » Tue Aug 24, 2004 11:43 am

My previous HD was a Maxtor which developed a strange whining noise after a while. I sold it to an unsuspecting individual and bought a Seagate, no problems since then. :twisted:
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Postby RootHubController » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:57 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Ick. ICK ICK ICK ICK!!! :? :?
Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.


I call bullshit. I'm running 8 100GB WD HDDs in a RAID 5 config for a fileserver, four 80GB WD in my Exchange/ App server, and two 40GB WD HDD in my Primary Domain Controller. Have been for the past 5 months. I've been putting them through their paces, too. I call PEBCAK.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:31 pm

RootHubController wrote:
SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Ick. ICK ICK ICK ICK!!! :? :?
Stay the fuck away from WD and Maxtor, they suck. best 120gb 7200rpm drive out there would have to be the Seagate Barracuda 120gb 7200rpm 8mb cache HD. I have it and it performs really really well, better than the Maxtor that got supplied in the parts I built this PC from.


I call bullshit. I'm running 8 100GB WD HDDs in a RAID 5 config for a fileserver, four 80GB WD in my Exchange/ App server, and two 40GB WD HDD in my Primary Domain Controller. Have been for the past 5 months. I've been putting them through their paces, too. I call PEBCAK.


That doesnt mean they dont suck, that just means you're lucky.

And fuck you for saying PEBCAK. There is NO PEBCAK existing here, alright? I'm sick of people calling PEBCAK when they just want to push their (incorrect) point.
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Postby klinky » Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:14 pm

I've had MAXTOR fail on me like four times now. I am not a fan of them. I have nothing against the following:

Western Digital
Seagate
Samsung


Those guys have performed well for me.

As for your bad RAM, I don't see how underclocking your CPU is going to save you from anything??

It's also more than logical to get another drive in your computer. I've got two and I'd get more if I had the $$$. Disk space is always running low on me, even with 120GB.
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Postby EBwiz » Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:01 am

Ok, This is off the forums topic, but Klinky asked. :P

Here's the story. I bought the computer bare bones off of ebay for about 512 dollars after shipping, which was great cause I had a copy of XP Pro. Once I got the computer, however, I was having problems installing it, and on rare occasions when it would install (Correctly, sometimes I could get to XP and have most of the stuff not install correctly), Set ups wouldn't install everything, I got alot of Blue screens of deaths (BSODs, we all know about those), etc... So I gave it to my techie friend Steve. We both thought the Hard drive was bad and it wasn't writing things correctly to it, so he was going to try to write zeros to it and see if that would do it. Well, he likes to experiment and he had a pentium 4 1.8 GHz just lieing around that he decided to try and install on my computer... didn't work, took it out, put the 2.4 it came with back in... Suddenly, my computer is working fine. XP installs without a hitch, all set ups are installing fine. This is when he realized what had happened: My PC was still underclocked at 1.8 GHz from where the bios had auto detected the one he had put in a moment ago. On a wihm, he changed it back to 2.4, and the same problems came back. He attributed this to the RAM in a long, drawn out way that I don't remember (This was a year or so back... actually going on 2, when I had graduated high school)... I can talk to him later and post why he said it was the RAM, but anyway he installed a couple extra fans and gave the computer back to me and I haven't had any problems since, but as soon as I buy new RAM for the computer, I'm upping it back to 2.4 GHz in hopes everything will work fine.
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