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Postby alicets1979 » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:31 am

I want to start making AMV's. I baught a new computer, a Dell Dimension 2400.. has intgrated video and a Celron 2.2. I plan top defently get the mak memory in it. going to get 2 sticks of 512 of DDR 333. also plan top get a biger hard drive.

My question is what other hard ware should i get like sound crard, video capture card, ect... I want to thank any one in advance for ther help.

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Postby Zarxrax » Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:22 pm

Personally I don't have a capture card, never had a need for one. If you plan to get your footage off DVDs, then a DVD-ROM is all that you need. If you think you will still need a capture card though, check out the "Hardware" section on this website, it has some reviews of various capture cards.
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Postby squall1986 » Sun Feb 01, 2004 12:55 pm

There are two reasons why you're an idiot for posting this.

First, this should have gone under Video Hardware Help, not the AMV section.

Second, you didn't read the <a href="http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/">Guides</a>, but then again that's typical for a n00b such as yourself.

So do yourself and everyone else a favor and go read the guides, then if you have any questions after that, I'll be glad to help.
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Postby Jnzk » Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:03 pm

squall1986 wrote:There are two reasons why you're an idiot for posting this.

That wasn't necessary. :?
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:09 pm

Janzki wrote:
squall1986 wrote:There are two reasons why you're an idiot for posting this.

That wasn't necessary. :?

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Postby Arigatomina » Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:18 pm

squall1986 wrote:There are two reasons why you're an idiot for posting this.

...but then again that's typical for a n00b such as yourself.


You know, glancing through your posts I find it ironic that you would say this to a new member asking a question. You, the same person who was so annoyed that people didn't help you when you had trouble grasping the concept of frame serving with Premiere. Maybe a few of your own quotes would help you be a little more understanding of so-called 'noobs' such as yourself. ^_^;;

squall1986 wrote:Ah, my mistake, man I feel dumb today.

Man, i'm an idiot,

...sorry, i was just really pissed off that no one would bother to help me.


Now do you think this person might have also made a 'mistake' - that this person might also be a little 'pissed off that no one would bother to help' him or her? Irony? Or just the pot calling the kettle black?
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Re: Hardware Question

Postby godix » Sun Feb 01, 2004 2:49 pm

alicets1979 wrote:My question is what other hard ware should i get like sound crard, video capture card, ect... I want to thank any one in advance for ther help.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Dells come with a sound card already don't they? If you want better quality sound then I generally find that better speakers will help more than a new soundcard. Computer speakers are generally crap and the average modern soundcard is usually more powerful than needed.

Make sure you actually need a capture card before getting one. Unless you're doing something unusual you just need a DVD player and a DVD ripper, forget about the capture card.

AMVs really only need three things, processor power, hard drive space, and memory. Your processor should be fine, although not great. I find that 512 meg memory is enough even if I have Photoshop, Premiere, and Virtualdub open at the same time. HD space is nice to have but isn't flat out required as long as you have a few gig free.

Really you don't need a kickass computer to do AMVs. All three videos in my profile were done on a PII 400 with 256 megs memory and about 5 gigs free HD space. I have a much better computer now and it helps speed things along but there isn't a single thing I can do with my athlon 3200, 512 memory, and 100 gig HD that I couldn't do before.

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Postby madmag9999 » Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:03 pm

the intergrated sound card that came with your dell will be fine. as far as speakers are concernd all u really need are some regualer speakers i dont have any fancy dobly digital 5.1 system coz i find these simple speakers work fine. for hard drive space u dont need all that much to make a decent amv all u really need is about 20gigs and a captuer card is only necessary if u want to record stuff of vhs or tv. to rip dvds u just need a dvd drive and a dvd riping program such a smart ripper. 512mb of ram is fine as well the only thing that will change your rendering time is cpu speed so that 2.2ghz celeron might slow things down a bit but eh its not bad at all. so i dont think u need to buy anything just the programs u need to make amvs with but then again most are free like smart ripper, vdub and tmpgenc. u can go out and buy premier or vegas for about $600 or use windows movie maker witch most likely came with your dell. the guids on the member main page will explain everything in more detail. good luck on your first amv
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Postby alicets1979 » Sun Feb 01, 2004 8:39 pm

First im sorry. i didn know ther was a How to Guide. plus im only novist when it comes to computers.

Im glad to see my Factory ingrated Dell sound card will work fine. so in theroy i really dont need a video capture card since im replacing my tapes with DVD's. but what about the WinTV USB TV Device?

Thanks for all the help. Apreceat it.

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Postby Scintilla » Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:06 pm

Arigatomyna wrote:You, the same person who was so annoyed that people didn't help you when you had trouble grasping the concept of frame serving with Premiere.

Whoa whoa whoa.

Premiere can <i>frameserve?</i>
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Postby Arigatomina » Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:25 pm

Scintilla wrote:
Arigatomyna wrote:You, the same person who was so annoyed that people didn't help you when you had trouble grasping the concept of frame serving with Premiere.

Whoa whoa whoa.

Premiere can <i>frameserve?</i>


Heh, I probably phrased it wrong, but according to DJ Izumi, s/he frameserves the footage to Premiere in order to avoid using large energy-draining clips. I admit, I have no idea what s/he was talking about since I don't use Premiere, but you might check the thread if you're curious - I know that's not the first time I'd heard someone refer to doing that. Just go to Squall's 'view all posts' and it's one of the first ones. ^.~
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Postby Alex_Dragon » Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:34 pm

I believe Izumi is using AVS script directly in her editor.As apposed to creating scripts then running them through Virtual Dub as huffyuv avi's.She has the vobs still on her hard drive and edits them through Avisynth.


(Did that make any sense at all?)
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Postby Scintilla » Mon Feb 02, 2004 12:08 am

Alex_Dragon wrote:I believe Izumi is using AVS script directly in her editor.As apposed to creating scripts then running them through Virtual Dub as huffyuv avi's.She has the vobs still on her hard drive and edits them through Avisynth.

Oh, never mind then. That's how I edit too.

I thought we were talking about frameserving <i>from</i> Premiere.
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Postby Alex_Dragon » Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:00 pm

Scintilla wrote:I thought we were talking about frameserving from Premiere.


This can be done too with Avisynth but for some odd reason the plugins i have found for it don't want to work with version 2's of AVisynth.I tried getting older versions of both but to no avail.You can get a frameservering program from www.videotools.net but it puts a banner on your video which sucks horibly.If anyone does know how to frameserve out of Premiere please send an E-mail my way becasue i would love to know how.
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Postby mckeed » Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:06 pm

Premire can frameserve. I don't know how to do it though premire as i use avisynth to frameserve into it. This would be using premire to frameserve into a third party compressor after you edited, but i see no real need to do this as i can't imagine premire doing a good job at all. Lossless huffy is fine as i got plenty of HD space. Plus its faster anyway. Its probally in the manual. I'm in class so i can't look it up, but i wouldn't recommend doing it anyway.
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