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thinking of buying a new computer

Postby Andres » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:04 am

NEC Multisync E1100+ 21" .28 Dot Pitch SVGA Monitor 219.00

Asus P4B533-E with Pentium®4 478PIN 2.53Ghz 533Mhz & Fan $449.84
*can be overclocked to 3010Ghz*

Black LITE-ON 40X12X48X E-IDE CD-R/CD-Rewritable Drive, OEM 84$

Black Toshiba SD-M1612 16X ATAPI DVD-ROM, OEM 48$

Kingston 512MB DDR333 PC2700 184-pin Computer System Memory

Module, Non-ECC, Retail box 144$

Black Directron SF-201T All-Aluminum Computer Mid-tower Case w/ 2
Side & Top Windows 176$

ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti4200 179$

total 1383$
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Postby FurryCurry » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:07 am

Now all you need is a hard drive or 4. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby klinky » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:14 am

FurryCurry wrote:Now all you need is a hard drive or 4. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Gonna say the same, possibly he's using his current one.


I don't like to waste a lot on the case, but if you must have the spiffness.


Other then that, looks pretty nice. I'd get a 1.6A(o'c it to 2.2+GHZ) over a 2.53 just to save the $100 and spend it on another hard drive.


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Postby Reverend Hammer » Sat Aug 24, 2002 2:03 am

I would just get a Chieftec mid-twoer to use as the case, and spend the left over money on HD space. Because a nice case won't do a bit of good if you don't have anywhere near enough room for those HuffyUV DVD rips. :)

BTW, do you absolutely have to go with the high-end P4 route? As klinky said, you could drop to a lower speed that will OC rather well. You could go with an AMD setup and save some money there, and not really lose any processing power.

Long story short: HD space over anything else.

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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:32 am

My suggestion isn't to get the P4. Save a hundred bucks or two, and buy an AMD Athlon Xp2200+. A recent benchmark test shows that an AMD Athlon Xp2200+ (Or was it 2100+? I think it was 2100+..) at 1.8GhZ (Or 1.73GHz for 2100+) beat a P4 2.53GHz PC.
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Postby Andres » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:24 pm

I have a 120GB WD 7200rpm 8MB cache for it. and a 60GB IBM 7200rpm MB cache. I don't know. I just don't trust athlons.
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Postby klinky » Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:02 pm

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Actually I use a AThlon XP 1.4Ghz, I like AMD and they're a good value. If you want a P4 that's fine. I always like getting the most bang for my buck and I don't really who it's from. Wayy back when I wanted to get a Cel300 and oc' it to 533Mhz as that was the hot ticket back then. Then the Duron600 came out and that was the hot ticket, I actually got one and clocked it up to 950Mhz ~stable~. I made most of my AMVs on that system.

I believe the P4 will give you better perfomance in things like 2D content creation as it's got a big memory bus and things like SSE2. The Athlon is excellent for 3D things(gaming, 3ds, lightwave) since it's got a nice FPU.

So either way as long as you're getting deal, I say for it.


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Postby Mask of Destiny » Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:33 pm

I just don't trust athlons.

It's not the Athlon you have to worry about, it's the chipset. Some of those VIA chipsets are awfully quirky. The AMD ones seem to be a bit more reliable.

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I wouldn't spend that much on a case. You can pick up a case for about $30 or $40. The difference would be better spent on a hard drive, or maybe some extra RAM. The former being the more important of the two.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Aug 24, 2002 4:04 pm

Well, a case with those windows you can see through is worth the money.
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Postby Andres » Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:23 pm

the case has windows on everyside. It's looks nice. AMD are the hardest to OC because they fry.As I've said before. I have two HD's for the machine.
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Postby klinky » Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:35 pm

Ha HA you don't trust AMD ehh...

A friend showed me this :

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/0 ... ed&tid=142



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Postby Andres » Sun Aug 25, 2002 1:03 am

yes, I see amd and intel as equals. But the fact of the matter. intel chips last longer. INtel has the ability to slow down the chip when it overheats. AMD chips just fry dead.
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Postby klinky » Sun Aug 25, 2002 1:52 am

You got problems if you have a crappy fan. While it is true that P4's can slow themselves down when the fan dies, there are options in most BIOS that allow them to shutdown if it gets too hot.

The chance of a fan dying is very unlikely, but possible :roll:

Not really the main reason someone shouldn't buy a AMD cpu as speedstep didn't start showing up for the desktop until later model PIIIs were introduced. We all know that even a 200Mhz cpu can fry itself if the fan dies. So that feature not being available obviously didn't stop millions of people from buying those other cpus.


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Postby Sinime » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:21 pm

If you are worried about a fan dieing then you should definitely get a window in your case. :D
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Postby Mask of Destiny » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:30 pm

If you are worried about a fan dieing then you should definitely get a window in your case.


Of course you could just buy a motherboard that has fan speed and temperature detection. All of the decent motherboards can shut themselves down when adverse conditions arise.
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