Just got my DVD-Drive. Time for SEVERAL questions.

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Just got my DVD-Drive. Time for SEVERAL questions.

Postby A.H. » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:10 pm

Long story short: I got Windows XP. I installed it over Windows ME. AOL didn't work. Uninstalling and Reinstalling it didn't work, trying lower versions didn't work, ordering a $22 CD called "Windows ME to XP Solutions" that had an "XP-compatable" version of AOL on it didn't work.

So I'm switching back to ME so I can use the net until I get Charter Pipeline. :D

More importantly, I got a snazzy new external DVD drive. I've been playing around with it, the ripping programs, and my operating systems, and here are some vital questions that I need answered by one of you good people:


1) My first try at ripping was very odd. It was with what was the only DVD in my house, Beavis and Butthead (We got my dad the complete 6-DVD set for his birthday back in August.). After the VOBs were ripped, I opened it up in DVD2AVI, and the picture was completely jumbled. Not surprisingly, VirtualDubAVS wouldn't let me import the AVS script with said D2V file. The DVD also wouldn't play on the DVD-playing program that came with the drive. This was all with Windows ME. After XP, everything was working perfectly. Was this a coincidence, or does XP really have things that help with recognizing the files more than other operating systems?

2) The VOBs of the above DVD were taking up about 5 gigs of space (I'm still using my USB hard drive of 28.8 G capacity.), so I deleted them. The D2V file would no longer work. Do I have to keep the VOB files on the computer in order to edit with the D2V file?

3) A more straightforward question: The pictures I see on Doom9.net in the DVD-ripping guides have the destination folders marked as D:, which is the name of my DVD-drive. I was under the impression that the VOB files have to be ripped onto the C drive, not the D drive. Is there a way to actually do that, or am I just dreaming?

4) I dragged and dropped one of the VOB files directly from the VIDEO_TS folder on the disk straight to my desktop and it made a copy. I used DVD2AVI and VirtualDubAVS, and everything worked fine. What exactly does ripping do differently (or more beneficial) than copying the VOB files?

5) I'm also considering buying a chip I can stick in my computer that will allow me to use my DVD-drive's firewire port. I know it will help me burn faster, but will it help me rip faster?

6) Onto video game ripping....

GOTTA FINISH LATER!
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Re: Just got my DVD-Drive. Time for SEVERAL questions.

Postby Scintilla » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:21 pm

A.H. wrote:2) The VOBs of the above DVD were taking up about 5 gigs of space (I'm still using my USB hard drive of 28.8 G capacity.), so I deleted them. The D2V file would no longer work. Do I have to keep the VOB files on the computer in order to edit with the D2V file?

Yes, you do. In fact, you can't move them from where they were when you made the D2V files. If you're going to move them to a different directory, you have to remake the D2V files.

A.H. wrote:3) A more straightforward question: The pictures I see on Doom9.net in the DVD-ripping guides have the destination folders marked as D:, which is the name of my DVD-drive. I was under the impression that the VOB files have to be ripped onto the C drive, not the D drive. Is there a way to actually do that, or am I just dreaming?

No, there isn't. Apparently whoever was taking those screenshots has a hard drive (or a partition of one) designated D:, as do a lot of people.
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Re: Just got my DVD-Drive. Time for SEVERAL questions.

Postby Corran » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:34 pm

Scintilla wrote:
A.H. wrote:3) A more straightforward question: The pictures I see on Doom9.net in the DVD-ripping guides have the destination folders marked as D:, which is the name of my DVD-drive. I was under the impression that the VOB files have to be ripped onto the C drive, not the D drive. Is there a way to actually do that, or am I just dreaming?

No, there isn't. Apparently whoever was taking those screenshots has a hard drive (or a partition of one) designated D:, as do a lot of people.


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Postby A.H. » Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:47 pm

Gotcha. Thanks.

Moving on:

6) The video files of the games I'm ripping from (Armored Core, PlayStation 2 games) have the extension .PSS. I thought for sure that this wouldn't help me at all, except that when I opened the files directly from Windows Media Player, it actually worked, minus some skipping. However, the ripping programs won't try them, simply because the folder they're in isn't named VIDEO_TS. I dragged and dropped the .PSS files when I made the D2V project (See Question 4 if this is a problem). Is there a way around this so the ripping programs can read the .PSS files just like VOB files?

7) When I made the D2V project of the above game footage, the colorspace of the result that I viewed in VirtualDubAVS was a familiar scene. Most of the colors weren't blended; it almost looked rippled with single colors staying in small designated areas. Is there a way to fix this, like changing the colorspace between RGB and YUV?

8) Finally, everyone's favorite bughive: Premiere. I hadn't previously tried to work with AVS files in premiere, and Premiere simply won't allow it. And I don't mean the Virtualdub/AVISynth plugin; I already have that. I mean as soon as I import the AVS file into Premiere, it "encounters and error and will now shut down". This was with ME. XP was even WORSE, as it wouldn't let me open Premiere AT ALL. After all of the plugins loaded, a window said a similar message, only also giving me an option to send an error report (Yeah. Let's bring attention to the fact that I didn't pay money for the program.) When I searched for Premiere on my P2P program, a result came up titled "300 plugins for Adobe Premiere". Would this help the crashing problem? If not, what would? Or am I just stuck in front of a brick wall here?
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Postby Scintilla » Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:29 pm

A.H. wrote:8) Finally, everyone's favorite bughive: Premiere. I hadn't previously tried to work with AVS files in premiere, and Premiere simply won't allow it. And I don't mean the Virtualdub/AVISynth plugin; I already have that. I mean as soon as I import the AVS file into Premiere, it "encounters and error and will now shut down". This was with ME. XP was even WORSE, as it wouldn't let me open Premiere AT ALL. After all of the plugins loaded, a window said a similar message, only also giving me an option to send an error report (<b>Yeah. Let's bring attention to the fact that I didn't pay money for the program.</b>) When I searched for Premiere on my P2P program, a result came up titled "300 plugins for Adobe Premiere". Would this help the crashing problem? If not, what would? Or am I just stuck in front of a brick wall here?

I don't think anyone will help you with an illegal copy of Premiere. My best advice is to save up and buy it. Or get your parents to.
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Postby klinky » Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:39 pm

or kill your parents and use the CC# to buy it..

get some lyme while your at it... ^_^ dead bodies smell
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Postby DJ_Izumi » Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:12 am

I can win at this game:

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Postby Corran » Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:57 am

Meh, I don't use any virtual drives. Beside I just posted it to show off my new wallpaper :)


If if really wanted to waste my time I could use partition magic :P :roll:
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Postby Jnzk » Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:16 am

Corran Productions wrote:Meh, I don't use any virtual drives. Beside I just posted it to show off my new wallpaper :)

Which is very nice btw. 8)
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Postby Corran » Wed Jan 07, 2004 8:23 am

Thank you, Janzki.
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Postby A.H. » Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:13 pm

Scintilla: That's a mighty tempting option right now, believe me. My birthday is just 4 months away, so Premiere would be a definite pick for the list. I'm just worried if they get 7.0 instead of 6.0, since I see the opinions of 7 on the site saying they'd rather stick with 6.

Although I was under the impression that a-m-v.org be mostly a group of theivin' pirates, ARRR. :twisted:

I digress...

Now for the last, and one of the most important question (Sorry I spaced.). Premiere and one other thing is keeping me from doing what I want on XP. The other being an ASPI layer. What's troubling me is the file "forceaspi17.rar" file I got from Doom9.net, because I have no freaking idea what to do with it, and apparently the mere presence of the file doesn't mean an ASPI layer is installed. So this is pretty straightforward: what do I do with it?
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Postby Scintilla » Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:50 pm

A.H. wrote:Scintilla: That's a mighty tempting option right now, believe me. My birthday is just 4 months away, so Premiere would be a definite pick for the list. I'm just worried if they get 7.0 instead of 6.0, since I see the opinions of 7 on the site saying they'd rather stick with 6.

I actually like PRO (it's not called 7.0; there is no version number anywhere in the name) better than 5.1, personally.

A.H. wrote:Although I was under the impression that the Org be mostly a group of theivin' pirates, ARRR. :twisted:

Well, if we are, we'll never admit it. And we'll come down harshly on those who do admit it. :)

A.H. wrote:Now for the last, and one of the most important question (Sorry I spaced.). Premiere and one other thing is keeping me from doing what I want on XP. The other being an ASPI layer. What's troubling me is the file "forceaspi17.rar" file I got from Doom9.net, because I have no freaking idea what to do with it, and apparently the mere presence of the file doesn't mean an ASPI layer is installed. So this is pretty straightforward: what do I do with it?

Run it through <a href="http://www.rarlab.com">WinRAR</a>.
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Postby bum » Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:17 am

im asuming everyone has by now answere'd this n00bs question. ah well, shucks i love helping people out with pc problems, its the only think that gets my grey mater working, oh well.

oh um, just one thing, download a trial of vegas4 before you think about geting premier...........................because no mater how good it is, by god be damned if vegas is not a thousand times beter
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Postby klinky » Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:46 am

Vegas actually allows export of a RGB32 track-matted AVI file ^_^. Premiere chokes on this for some reason...
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