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TV-Out Question

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Tue May 06, 2003 7:14 pm

Are there any video cards out there that let you set the resolution of the TV-Out signal? At home I have a Palitdaytona GeForce 2, and the only setting I can have for TV-Out is 800x600. And it sucks. Also the top of the picture curves in toward the centre slightly, and the image doesnt go all the way to the edges. Any cards that can let you control this (preferably GeForce 4 series, but any advice will do.)
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Re: TV-Out Question

Postby dwchang » Wed May 07, 2003 10:49 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Are there any video cards out there that let you set the resolution of the TV-Out signal? At home I have a Palitdaytona GeForce 2, and the only setting I can have for TV-Out is 800x600. And it sucks. Also the top of the picture curves in toward the centre slightly, and the image doesnt go all the way to the edges. Any cards that can let you control this (preferably GeForce 4 series, but any advice will do.)


Like you need higher or lower res. My Geforce 4 4200 TI (Gainward) can go to 640x480 as well. If you're looking for 320x240, I don't know about that.
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Postby LinkArroway » Wed May 07, 2003 4:07 pm

On my XP Machine I can use 720x480 with my TV Out using my Geforce 4 MX 420 PCI.
In control panel, display properties, settings, advanced (with tv selected), adapter tab, List All Modes...
In that box I could choose 420x480, 32bit color, 60Hertz.. Theres other ways to hack your pc into doing this I hear online. It looks good and it cuts off the bars on the sides and stuff like a normal TV's overscan..
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Postby Pwolf » Wed May 07, 2003 5:21 pm

I know with some ati cards you can edit one of the driver files to add more res's, but of course that isn't always good.



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Postby LinkArroway » Wed May 07, 2003 7:18 pm

In the box I chose 720x480* (The same res. the video I am using was in and what tv's use and all that other good stuff). but my hardware supports it, and its on a tv so its cool. altho becareful about messin with this especially on ur main screen like Pwolf mentioned, it can screw up your monitor if you try to put it at a res/rate it cannot display
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu May 08, 2003 6:39 pm

Ahh... Well, like I said I have a GeForce 2 (MX440 I think) that runs in the AGP slot, b'coz AGP is better than PCI... :lol: But I'll have a look for those settings. I havnt seen them before, but maybe I wasn't looking in the right place. Thanx anyway.
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Re: TV-Out Question

Postby Knowname » Wed May 14, 2003 1:45 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Are there any video cards out there that let you set the resolution of the TV-Out signal? At home I have a Palitdaytona GeForce 2, and the only setting I can have for TV-Out is 800x600. And it sucks. Also the top of the picture curves in toward the centre slightly, and the image doesnt go all the way to the edges. Any cards that can let you control this (preferably GeForce 4 series, but any advice will do.)


I think powerstrip will solve your problem
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed May 14, 2003 6:40 pm

ooh! that powerstrip thingy looks good!! A little complicated and I'm afraid of fucking my video card up but.....

Oh, I found those options in the display settings, 800x600 32 bit colour 60hz is my maximum option and theres no way around it!! Does this powerstrip thingy override that?
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed May 21, 2003 7:03 pm

Shit! Powerstrip still doesnt allow me to tweak it.

Just a thought, the TV itself can't supply an upper limit to its res settings can it? Mine is a Sony 60cm Flatscreen Trinitron (can't remember serial number right now) so I would've thought it would be able to handle a resolution above 800x600.

And apologies for the necropost, I just want to know if i should bother investing in a new video card, if it isnt the TV itself causing the problem.
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Postby Dannywilson » Thu May 22, 2003 1:42 pm

It's the card rather than the TV. I run my TV out at 1024x768.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu May 22, 2003 6:24 pm

Dannywilson wrote:It's the card rather than the TV. I run my TV out at 1024x768.


Ah. well I found out that my card and drivers can only handle 800x600, I think. Although I downloaded TVTool, to enlarge the screen a bit. The problem wasnt the resolution, it was that annoying frame around the "screen", which the "full screen" function of TVTool eliminates by zooming in a bit. Yeah, so i lose maybe half an inch around the edges because it adjusts it for overscan, but it looks a hell of alot better. Oh, and the TV chip on my GeForce2 is a Chrontel.
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Postby ongakuka » Tue Jun 24, 2003 3:25 pm

Just some insight.. may be helpful or not.

Anything you display on TV has been sent out of the video card at 720x486 because that's the native 'resolution' of a 4:3 NTSC tv screen (or a VCR if you're just doing slave recording). Your desktop size determines how much content is on the screen, but it doesn't really increase/decrease the signal that the TV itself displays. The computer will operate at 1024x768, you will perceive 1024x768, but the video card will stretch/shrink the image down to 720 before the TV displays it. A monitor doesn't do this, it actually recalibrates/[multi]synchs the RGB guns so that the scan rate changes. TVs lack this ability because they run at a single scan rate (fixed frequency vs multi freq/synch monitors).

When doing TV out for recording purposes, I recommend that the video resolution is changed to resolution closest to 720x48#. It seems counterintuitive, but you get a better image because the video hardware will no longer be scaling the displayed image to match what the TV can accept. Unless you're working with DV material (and then you would be using a dedicated DV in/out box so this is all moot), chances are your codec is already stretching your video to full screensize. If the codec is scaling to 1024x768, then the hardware scales that same signal right back down to 720x486, you add artifacts and also lose sharpness.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:22 am

I already solved the problem....check the last post date...

Fucking necroposting-noobs.....
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Postby ongakuka » Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:43 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:I already solved the problem....check the last post date...

Fucking necroposting-noobs.....


I'm not aiming to start more flames so I'm not going to respond after this (if you respond), but you guys have some attitude issues here. I tried to contribute potentially relevant information that others might find useful concerning the subject. This forum doesn't seem to get much traffic as it is, if you want to keep it that way, I'm happy to oblige..

Also, I started fansubbing in '96. I'm only a noob to this board.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:54 am

Fuck your righteous attitude, man. So what if you were fansubbing in 96. We dont have attitude issues. You have issues with our attitude, why should we change it to suit you?

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