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How do I capture??

Postby Knowname » Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:51 pm

I was just READFAGin and I'm very disapointed in the instructions (or lack of) for analogue capturing. All it does is says 'get in Vdub, capture mode, pick yur codec, size and your good, if you got probs than screw you!' So I go to pick my capture size (video->format->resolution) and I have about 5 choices over the default 320x240 but none of em work! when I press ok it says 'Error 418: Unsupported video format' and it goes back to default. I've also changed the colorspace to all flavors of YUV and RGB but nothin! I just wanna capture at 640x480 or larger (6x4 is all I can do in my MPEG program) with a lossless program ;-p.
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Postby Brolli411 » Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:00 pm

There is a whole other guide to analogue capturing... But I can't help you with the Vdub problem.

http://animemusicvideos.org/guides/2VCR/default.htm
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Postby CArnesen » Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:34 pm

:shock: :lol:
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Postby Knowname » Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:57 pm

haha yeah... I don't think that works either....
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Postby klinky » Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:14 pm

Brolli411 wrote:There is a whole other guide to analogue capturing... But I can't help you with the Vdub problem.

http://animemusicvideos.org/guides/2VCR/default.htm



That has nothing to do with analog capturing.


See if it works @ 320x240. My ATI TV Wonder VE isn't really allowing me to select anything higher either.

Not sure why :| I don't know maybe it doesn't support it. I am not a capturing genius.


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Postby Brolli411 » Sat Jan 25, 2003 9:32 pm

Damn me... I guess there's a difference between 'Capture' and 'Creation.' I saw Analog and went wild.
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Postby Knowname » Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:34 pm

yes... anyway genius genIUS paging mr Ed0!! gawdamit I need this b4 Jammin W/ Edward on Monday... cmon Ed0 I'm sure it's your favorite episode! :) Else I can just do it the good ole 6mbps MPEG1 w/ all keyframes.... maybe these cards are just too ghetto.
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Postby AbsoluteDestiny » Sun Jan 26, 2003 3:53 am

Video capture massively varies from capture card to capture card.

It would really help if you actually told us what your hardware was otherwise we can't help.

This is the reason the guide isn't more specific - there are too many capture cards out there so we can't write a guide for all of them.
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Postby Knowname » Sun Jan 26, 2003 1:04 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Video capture massively varies from capture card to capture card.

It would really help if you actually told us what your hardware was otherwise we can't help.

This is the reason the guide isn't more specific - there are too many capture cards out there so we can't write a guide for all of them.


:P thanks (and of coarse your genius #2 w/ the guide...) I have an Iomega PC-PVR which Dscaler recognizes as a Pinnacle Studio (cuz it is...). If you know of something on doom9 or something that'd be awesome cuz I'm in the reading mood but if you can clue me in on what matches with what (preferebly xxx by 480 like the guide eludes too) so I can follow along better that'd be awesome x2!
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Postby Knowname » Sun Jan 26, 2003 1:12 pm

and AthieXP 2+,
256 megs RAM PC266 CL2.5
slow ass U/100 7200rpm HDD

plan to u/g in a weak though probly
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Postby klinky » Sun Jan 26, 2003 2:26 pm

http://www.iulabs.com/drv/faq.shtml#Q8 wrote:Q8: Why is VirtualDub software unable to capture a frame with more than 288 pixel rows in PAL mode (or 240 pixel rows for NTSC)?
A: VirtualDub, like any other VFW based software, uses a so-called wrapper to translate VFW calls to their counterparts in "DirectShow/WDM world". This slowdowns your PC a bit, and the wrapper grabs only one TV signal field. This results in only 288 lines for PAL/SECAM and 240 lines for NTSC. I think it would be possible to modify their wrapper to solve this problem but unfortunately I do not have the free time and special equipment needed to work on it.



Perhaps you could use Pinnacles software? Maybe you can get it off their website. Also I am sure the card came with it's own capture software. Can't you use that? Either way, it sounds like vDub is not going to work for you.

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Postby Knowname » Tue Jan 28, 2003 1:53 pm

yea I remember reading about VFW vs Directshow etc. on that Brooktree driver site (was under the impression that MPEG = VFW and AVI = DShow, therefor FFDShow)... so I guess that means that only DV equipment is truly AVI (DShow) compliant... anyway nice find I'll look into that some more.

I'll try whatever Pinnacle uses but as most S/W is just the SE version of a commercial package I'll probly end up with paying for it :twisted:. This card (PC-PVR) comes with Cyberlink's PowerVCR it's an MPEG program (again VFW comes back to haunt me, don't know why I didn't think of it b4! :stupid stupid STUPID:) but I just wanted to know my options.

You can use Dscaler 3's new PVR thing to haxxor (make) a capture avi but I've only been able to change it's horrizontal pixel count and it's VERY buggy... but maybe if I wanna capture a 640x480 (320x480 upped via VDub) I'll do that... dunno. But again that thing is so buggy think it only does uncompressed and skips like hell (though DShow is supposed to be faster in XP...). I wanna try Intervideo's WinVCR (extra comment that has little to do with anything).
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