Selecting Scenes

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Selecting Scenes

Postby Unrul3r » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:55 am

I was wondering, how does each of you select your scenes for your amv? Is it by seeing the whole series/movie again and take note of the scenes you want? Is it by jump-seeing them? What's your way of selecting them?

This comes out of curiosity cose i usually see the whole series/movie to get a better grip on the scenes.

So, whats your way? :)

PS: I hope this is in the right section :lol:
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:59 am

i usually scan through the video files and select the ones that look like they can fit, then later decide which ones to use
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Postby Bauzi » Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:41 pm

What I used to do:
Work on the video. Remeber the stuff that I had in my mind. when it doesn´t work or when I needed a scene I thought about alternate scenes and swifted threw if I didn´t found one.


Today:
I swift threw all the episodes and cut out possible clips and place them in one of my Premiere Pro sequences. Sometimes I use one layer for one anime, episode or movie to make the duration not too long.
The beginning is kinda frustrating and boring, but in the end I can use my old method on a clip pool of amv worthy scenes. It spares time for me.



For every (seriously) amv project I discover and improve better working methods, I won´t be surprised when I come up later with new ideas and work flows :)
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Postby DeinReich » Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:50 pm

I think it is best to have as much footage as you can have available to edit and sift through it in your editing program as you edit. It's always better to have more than you need then to find out you don't have enough.
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Postby Unrul3r » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:16 pm

DeinReich wrote:I think it is best to have as much footage as you can have available to edit and sift through it in your editing program as you edit. It's always better to have more than you need then to find out you don't have enough.


Yea, i agree with you. Last amv i had tons of footage left over. :lol:
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:55 pm

I used to spend about 10+ hours just scrubbing through footage and setting clipping points. After I got a lot more HDD space to work with and a decent system to run on i started dumping entire series to disc and transcoding it for later use. This only works for relatively small sources (I wouldn't recommend doing it for more than 10 hours of footage unless you have a lot of free space to use).
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:52 pm

I love my 1tb external >.>


Being really familiar with your source really goes to help...

for one of my videos, since ripping 7 seasons, 26 episodes each season, hour long episodes sounded really crappy, I watched the source and took notes on which scenes and clips i wanted... everything from what episode they were in and which dvd they were on...

however if you are only working with a short series or a couple of movies, I would hope that you don't need to take too many notes.
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Postby LantisEscudo » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:31 pm

I rewatch all of my source footage, usually on fast-forward so it takes less time, and write down times and a short description of any scene I might want to use. Then I drop the song into the editor, and drop markers on any point where I want a change of scene.

I make a list of the times for each marker and the lyrics at those times, and then take both lists and start matching scenes from the first list with times on the second until I've filled at least half and usually three-quarters or more of the song. At that point, I clip the scenes I've chosen and many of the potentially useful scenes from the scene list and edit the parts I have chosen together. I use the extra scenes that I clipped to fill in the gaps.

I then export a first alpha and look for scenes that don't work together, bad transitions, mistimings, and whatever else might be wrong, and try to fix those before I start shopping a revised beta around for advice.
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Postby Kariudo » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:46 pm

I usually don't start with a large pool of clips, I'll have a few specific scenes in mind when I start a project and then decide what clips to pull from my source as I edit based on what I think flows with the current section I'm editing.

That ends up taking a really long time because I'll end up scrubbing through multiple disks multiple times every time I want a few new clips. Once I put clips on the timeline I don't like to change them (because of the amount of work it takes me to find a new clip)

I need to change my ways if I want to get amvs out in under a year >_>
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Postby Farlo » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:58 pm

after dumping vobs to my hdd i just get general clips i want to using vdubmod.

i can trim down the rest and get em timed how i want once they hit the timeline.
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Postby Krisqo » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:02 am

Am I the only one who imports full length episodes/movies?

I've tried cutting clips for one AMV and I basically ended up with 90%+ of the movie on my HDD in clip form anyway. I set a HDD aside for my .VOBs separated by DVD:
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And then when I make the VFAPI files using VFAPIConv, I import them into my editing program (in this case Premiere Pro 1.5) and then create a bin for each movie/series. For multiple seasons, I use something like Ranma1, Ranma2, ect.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:14 am

for me it depends on the source, as the video i talked about before putting that much footage onto my hd would be stupid nuts, however if its a movie or a short series i can do that.
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Postby JP SouljahDEL » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:15 pm

I usually watch the whole series, and as I watch ideas will build up, and I usually take note of the episodes number and scenes. If it's a movie I usually go along with whatever part I'm at. Then when I'm done and I really feel like sticking with the AMV I'll go rip it.

I usually take notes on my Notepad about which episodes I should work on getting, if it's a long series. If it's a short one ,like for FLCL, or Elfen Lied, then I won't worry because I'll usually end up getting every episode.

When I start editing, if it comes to a part where I don't know what I want in there, or my original idea has failed, then I start reviewing my notes, or watching some other parts to work again.

When I edit quickly, usually the ideas will just come together as I edit.
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Re: Selecting Scenes

Postby Kanti13 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:39 am

I put all the episodes I have (one at a time) into my timeline and scroll through them then make subclips of any scenes that are interesting and that I think I might want to use, even if it's not in my current project. Once I do that and have a whole lot of clips and material to choose from I import my song and pick clips to match ect..
That's why I loved Magix, and even WMM, cuz you could use all clips you had from any project in any new project. With vegas now I try to make one amv at a time of a certain anime and then 'save as' so I can use the subclips in my new projects. I feel like (excuse the crappy analogy) if I was writing a research paper, going through all the eps and making subcilps is like the research and it may take a long time, but then it makes the actual project so much easier. That's the way I do it.
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Re: Selecting Scenes

Postby Nya-chan Production » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:42 pm

I make only vids from anime I have seen completely.

I render the working versions and just skip through them in the trimmer searching for good scene "it's that feeling "I think I have seen such moody sceen somewhere around here""

Worked fine so far, but I prefer to work with limited footage (2 eps OVA, 5 minute anime, 1 ep of anime... my longest source were complete Hidamari x365 and complete True Tears...)
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