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avi or mpeg and why

Postby Farlo » Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:16 pm

avi or mpeg and why

also what codec do you use and link to it if you can
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Postby The Wired Knight » Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:18 pm

Mpeg. Not as great quality as AVI but the file size is more managable and I have it as an mpeg 2 codec.
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Re: avi or mpeg and why

Postby CArnesen » Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:30 pm

el_farlo wrote:avi or mpeg and why


avi - Only if you want to actually take your time to make the best encoding.

mpeg - If you want the best compatibility and if you don't like messing with a lot of settings.

el_farlo wrote:also what codec do you use and link to it if you can


avi - XviD all of the way.

mpeg - TMPGEnc, don't accept any substitutes.

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Postby jbone » Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:35 pm

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Postby Brolli411 » Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:50 pm

jbone wrote:<A HREF=http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/>Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</A>


It's an opinion question... I like AVI, because it has much more versatility.
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Postby jbone » Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:15 pm

Brolli411 wrote:
jbone wrote:<A HREF=http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/>Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</A>

It's an opinion question... I like AVI, because it has much more versatility.

No, he quite obviously wanted someone to tell him how he should compress. He even asked for a link to a codec.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:24 pm

well I'll be your henchman jbone in saying that you guys should stop referring to avi as a codec.. 'avi has better quality' etc.

That said, let me rephrase the question (although it was asked once before) to:

What container format, video codec, and audio codec do you prefer?


me, I dont prefer avi or mpeg1/2 elementary/program streams. Personally I like ogg and its directshow video implementation. Although when the newer container formats matroska and MCF come out I'm sure they'll dwarf the hack of .ogg that is ogm.
I like ogg/ogm as a container right now simply because of it's internal improvements over avi (proper handling of bframes, vbr audio, ability to stream, better error handling) and because of the functionality of Tobias' directshow ogg and subtitle filters, since they allow for built in language titles, chapter points and names, and internal overlayed text subtitles. It makes it choice for sub&dub backup.

current favorite container format: ogg/ogm

Codec wise its a trade off. I use both RealVideo 9 and XviD. Most of the time however I'll use XviD because of it's ability to be used in things like the ogg contanier. RV sadly is STILL restricted to RM files even though the dna source code has been out for a few months :cry:

current favorite video codec: RV9, XviD

As far as audio goes, I personally find RealAudio 8 to be far superior to all other audio codecs to date. especially at low bitrates. However, it suffers the same inoperability problems as RV9 and thus I usually go with second best (but not necessarily bad), vorbis. Since vorbis is THE native audio codec for ogg/ogm, it works out alright in the end.

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Postby Farlo » Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:29 pm

no jbone :evil: this is an OPINION i personally use avi just because the quality tends to be better with ulead...and i usually use a divx codec. i was seeing what other people prefer
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:30 pm

I'm coping jbone.

Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides

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Anyways, I personally like DivX 4/5 Compatible-XviD with LAME MP3 audio, or an OGM with XviD and OGG Audio. :)

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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:34 pm

oggs just a file container there buddy :\
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Jan 11, 2003 11:40 pm

I know, Vorbis is the [not only I hope] codec, is it not?
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Sun Jan 12, 2003 2:55 am

yeah vorbis is Xiph's opensource audio codec which is meant to be used in the ogg container. Ogg's current implementation is just like a big empty box though, you can put anything in it as long as you have/write a dshow filter for it :\
Originally it was intended for vorbis yes but it's more functional than that and actually Tobias who wrote the dshow filters just joined Xiph and his implementation became an official part of the project.
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Postby the Black Monarch » Sun Jan 12, 2003 4:04 am

I use AVI for the pure and simple reason that Premiere doesn't export as MPEGs :)
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Postby klinky » Sun Jan 12, 2003 6:16 am

AVI IS NOT A COMPRESSION FORMAT >_<

OK, IT'S NOT!


"I USE AVI" Doesn't tell us anything about what you're doing.

You need to say something like "I export using huffYUV to a AVI File, with uncompressed WAVE audio."


Then it makes more sense. There is no such thing as just "AVI". You SHOULD have atleast one video stream and one audio stream in your AVI file by the time it's exported for distro. You need explain what those are.

Saying "AVI" leaves everything up in the air....

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Postby Ashton » Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:25 am

klinky wrote:AVI IS NOT A COMPRESSION FORMAT >_<

OK, IT'S NOT!


"I USE AVI" Doesn't tell us anything about what you're doing.

You need to say something like "I export using huffYUV to a AVI File, with uncompressed WAVE audio."


Then it makes more sense. There is no such thing as just "AVI". You SHOULD have atleast one video stream and one audio stream in your AVI file by the time it's exported for distro. You need explain what those are.

Saying "AVI" leaves everything up in the air....

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and XviD, but I definately use AVI :lol:
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