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Postby dbz_doomrider » Mon Jan 06, 2003 6:35 pm

So how does this machine sound for video editing?

3.06 gigahurtz with new hyperthreading technology
1.5 gigs DDR RAM
200 gig harddrive 1
200 gig harddrive 2
64 meg sound card with flat panel speakers, and subwoofer
Geoforce4 128 meg vid card
22" flat panel monitor ( :D)
DVD-R
CD-R
DVD-ROM
CD-ROM
FIREWIRE
Bluettoth® wireless keyboard, with optical wireless mouse complete with cruise control (this still sounds funny to me)
Windows XP Home edition
Adobe Premiere 6.0 (a REAL VERSION ;[ )

Sound good? It does to me.
The price? 3500.
I need to know though: is this machine gonna be super good for video editing?
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Postby klinky » Mon Jan 06, 2003 6:52 pm

Yes it will probably do good for editing, but something that would perform equally could be made for probably about half that price. I am thinking that 22" monitor is making up probably 1/3rd of that price.

Clunking down $3500 for AMVs seems a little absurd, before you go run off and do that I would think about other uses for a system. You may want to run games on it, in which case a flat panel is not the best option since they are known to have ghosting.

Also I've yet to hear of a 64MB soundcard? You sure they didn't mean 64bit? Which actually sounds bad since they don't give a brand name.

Hyperthreading is not a "NEW" technolgy it was been around in the Xeon cpus for awhile now. In some instances it really boosts performance in others it slows them down.

It's GeForce4, not GeoForce. Also a brand name would be nice.
DVD-R? What brand, what make what model? How fast?
Same with the CD-R?
Shitty flat fanel speakers and a subwoofer can be had for $40... A brand name/model would be nice.
The flat panel? Who makes it what model is it?


Actually to tell you the truth it doesn't sound like a real bargin, these umm sound like they could be real shitty parts... :\

Post back with more info :O


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Postby dbz_doomrider » Mon Jan 06, 2003 7:32 pm

O.O

well heres your info:

In regards to the video card:
128MB ATI Radeon 9700G PRO AGP Graphics Accelerator with TV Out and DVI

In regards to the speaker and sound:
SoundBlaster Audigy Audio w/ IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Boston Acoustics® BA7800 5-piece Sub/Satellite System

As for the cd burner/dvd burner etc:
.........................*waiting*.............................
The Panasonic LF-D311 8xDVD Burner (DVD-RAM/-R)
TDK CyClone 48x24x48x CD-Writer Review
48x HP dvd player ( sounds kinda weird?)
52x hp cd player

The monitor:
Augi electronics 22" Flat Panel monitor with liquid crystal display (brand new technology :p j/k)

I hope perhaps that helped a little bit in some way :\
Thanks for your time
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:51 pm

Hmmm...This kind of system is pure overkill.

I assume you are using for more than just video editing here...What's with all the CD and DVD players??? The burner can play DVDs as well. I hope you understand everything your getting here.

If you have a need for such a system and not buying and telling us just to have the most powerfullist machine here!

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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jan 06, 2003 10:55 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:Hmmm...This kind of system is pure overkill.

I assume you are using for more than just video editing here...What's with all the CD and DVD players??? The burner can play DVDs as well. I hope you understand everything your getting here.

If you have a need for such a system and not buying and telling us just to have the most powerfullist machine here!

Vlad



Me and my non-existent typing skills... I'm referring to the fact that it's overkill if used only for editing Anime music videos... and hope you have a real need for such a system....

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Postby trythil » Mon Jan 06, 2003 11:08 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:Me and my non-existent typing skills... I'm referring to the fact that it's overkill if used only for editing Anime music videos... and hope you have a real need for such a system....

Vlad


Maybe he's trying to compensate for something?



dbz_doomrider wrote:Augi electronics 22" Flat Panel monitor with liquid crystal display (brand new technology :p j/k)


Never heard of that company before, but beware -- color calibration can be a problem on many LCD screens. You will also have scaling problems when operating at non-native resolutions. If you didn't have a need for the sexiest gear available, I'd say just go for a CRT. Or two.

dbz_doomrider wrote:200 gig harddrive 1
200 gig harddrive 2


If you're already plunking down $3500, consider getting a third drive and arranging them in a RAID-5 configuration. You have some protection against drive failure that way.

dbz_doomrider wrote:3.06 gigahurtz


"Gigahertz". Big difference.
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Postby dbz_doomrider » Mon Jan 06, 2003 11:43 pm

Of course, I have other plans for this comp, I do of course plan to use it for school work, and everything else that may come along in the future. It'll last me forever blah blah blah. You get the point, that I was just asking if the callibration was optimum for music videos sake.

Trythil: thanks for the suggestion regarding the monitor, I'll try and look into that CRT as you say:

(and I dont appreciate the compensation comment :evil: :evil:
My skillz are 1337 enough thank you :p, I want to work with optimum video and sound though, so that my work can look as good as possible....I'm rather picky about that.)

(gigahurtz, gigahertz WHATEVER)
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Tue Jan 07, 2003 3:08 am

[quote="dbz_doomrider"]Of course, I have other plans for this comp, I do of course plan to use it for school work, and everything else that may come along in the future. It'll last me forever blah blah blah. You get the point, that I was just asking if the callibration was optimum for music videos sake. [/quote="dbz_doomrider"]

School work?? Must be one hell of a school... My point is for so must cost and power, you've got to ensure you can utilize it since in a year or two even that machine will be obsolete and the newer chaper models faster. Hec, I could afford such a system myself but I've not found a practical reason to spend so much and I also do editing jobs on the side!

[quote="dbz_doomrider"]
(and I dont appreciate the compensation comment :evil: :evil:
My skillz are 1337 enough thank you :p, I want to work with optimum video and sound though, so that my work can look as good as possible....I'm rather picky about that.)[/quote="dbz_doomrider"]

Why bother asking our opinion then? Your comment comes across that you know exactly what your doing in what your buying and what you can do with it.... If that's the case, just go out and buy it... Just keep in mind that a powerhouse machine does not gurantee quality! Faster rendering time, editing and more storage, maybe, but in the end the music videos you produce in terms of quality will be dependent on your skills of being able to use the equipment and software.

In the end it's your money, I just think to answer your original question about this being a good machine for video editing, you could get a more optimized system for video editing with less money that would probably meet your needs....

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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Tue Jan 07, 2003 3:54 pm

dbz_doomrider wrote:O.O

well heres your info:

In regards to the video card:
128MB ATI Radeon 9700G PRO AGP Graphics Accelerator with TV Out and DVI

In regards to the speaker and sound:
SoundBlaster Audigy Audio w/ IEEE 1394 (FireWire)
Boston Acoustics® BA7800 5-piece Sub/Satellite System

As for the cd burner/dvd burner etc:
.........................*waiting*.............................
The Panasonic LF-D311 8xDVD Burner (DVD-RAM/-R)
TDK CyClone 48x24x48x CD-Writer Review
48x HP dvd player ( sounds kinda weird?)
52x hp cd player

The monitor:
Augi electronics 22" Flat Panel monitor with liquid crystal display (brand new technology :p j/k)

I hope perhaps that helped a little bit in some way :\
Thanks for your time



...You don't need a fooking CD-ROM. DVD-ROMs play CDs. I bet you ten to one that the DVD-ROM is 16x, but it will read CDs at 48x.
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Postby dbz_doomrider » Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:13 pm

Whoops.....eh heh didnt mean to say the 1337 skillz thing in that way: I was just saying that the comment about having to compensate seemed to denote that I had no editing skills, and therefore needed something great.

I still want the input, and I have found this input very useful so far. Anywho, thats me, making mistakes as always '-_-

However, on this same topic, can you make a suggestion of something that WOULD be advantagious to buy for video editing sake. If I can avoid spending so much money, you better believe I'll try. I need all the suggestions I can get O.O!!
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Tue Jan 07, 2003 7:41 pm

I got :

PC2100 Corsair DDR266 SDRAM 512MB - $96
Abit KG7-RAID - $61
AMD Athlon XP 1700+ - $70 or so
Thermaltake's Volcano 7 - $20
Copper Shim - $9 or so
Active Memory Coolers [Thermaltake] - $20 or so

all off eBay.

That's good enough for me, besides the $150 120GB HD, $70 40GB HD, $30 DVD-ROM, $50 TV Tuner, $130 CD burner, $200 monitor, $63 video card, $30 sound card.
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Jan 08, 2003 3:12 am

dbz_doomrider wrote:Whoops.....eh heh didnt mean to say the 1337 skillz thing in that way: I was just saying that the comment about having to compensate seemed to denote that I had no editing skills, and therefore needed something great.

I still want the input, and I have found this input very useful so far. Anywho, thats me, making mistakes as always '-_-

However, on this same topic, can you make a suggestion of something that WOULD be advantagious to buy for video editing sake. If I can avoid spending so much money, you better believe I'll try. I need all the suggestions I can get O.O!!


If your plans are to edit anime music videos and possibly other similar type projects, I would recommend to atleast have the following for a good solid editing system.

- Lots of ram, min 512 meg, but I work with 1 gig...
- Yes, lots of video drive space is good. I use 200 Gig of Video drivers (2x80 and 1 x60). I run them off a Promise IDE ATA133 TX2 controller and have excellent results.
- 2 x 17" monitors (Flatscreen are more, but save space so it's a trade off here - If you go with a flat screen, even 15" is a good consideration and they are much cheaper).
- Video Cards that can run both monitors. a few choices here. ATI makes some cool stuff.

Depending on what you want else you want to do, you may consider a realtime editing card like a Pinnacle DV500 if you want to edit footage shot with a camera as or even analog footage as well. If Anime Music videos off DVD and digital output (Mpeg1, Mpeg2, XviD, etc) is all you want, then this is not a requirement. But you do get a full version of Premiere with it and the cost is like $500.00 (Premiere itself costs in that range!)

If you do decide to go with a video editing card. Make sure the motherboard and video cards you choose are compatible with it! I'm sure lots of people make recommendations here...

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Postby dbz_doomrider » Wed Jan 08, 2003 6:05 pm

Thanks man. How much would you say a Pinnacle goes for (by the way I am canadian.....and I have also observed you are too so in Canadian $$?)
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Wed Jan 08, 2003 10:00 pm

dbz_doomrider wrote:Thanks man. How much would you say a Pinnacle goes for (by the way I am canadian.....and I have also observed you are too so in Canadian $$?)


In Canadian funds.... I think I did see it for about $800.00 somewhere. Most of the costs I tend to get from the Web and are in Amercian $. I did check about 1 year ago on the price locally and I think it wnet for about $1000.00. But that was a year ago and the price has dropped since then... It still is a great deal getting Premiere and all with it though... I actually use a Matrox RT2500, but I have heard very good things about the DV500 and it's a tad cheaper...

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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Wed Jan 08, 2003 10:25 pm

Isn't the RT2500 one or two grand though? (In American USD, of course)

I've also heard good things about the DV500, comes in handy if editing say DVD DV footage or something.
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