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Premiere vs Vegas

Postby Toshiyan » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:18 am

I know it really depends on what you need that makes the best program for you but out of premiere and vegas what would be the pros and cons of each one? Currently I am using the demo of premiere and going to get the demo of vegas and see if I can find any difference so I can decide on which on to buy.

Though I would like more opinions on this than my own since this is going to cost quite a bit, what are the reason I would buy Premiere, and what reasons would I buy Vegas.

Comments Appreciated.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:53 am

I use Vegas, so I'll pro/con that.

Pros:
-Vegas 6 is cheaper than any version of Premiere at only $99
-Vegas has a comprehensive Help file, so if you ever need to know how to do something it's a simple matter of just looking it up and reading up on it.
-Unlimited video tracks.
-Some nice stock effects, but most of them are admittedly crap.
-VERY nice masking/pen tools.
-Pretty easy to jump into; was for me at least.
-Can handle IVTC'd video at 23.976 fps in addition to 29.97 fps; Premiere can only handle video at 29.97 fps.
-Hotkeys speed things up a ton.
-Good at editing audio.

Cons:
-Crappy marker/snap functions.
-Absolutely horrendous and useless 3D tracking.
-Unwieldy blending modes; blending modes can't be applied to individual clips, instead they must be applied to entire tracks.
-Picky about rendering sped-up clips.
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Postby Bauzi » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:03 am

Here am I, a Premiere user.

Premiere Pro 1.5 & CS3.:

Pros:
-Easy to handle
-Fast when you work with hot keys
-More sequenzes in one project file ("more projects in one porjectfile").
-Can render a preview for you
-Accepts avs directly
-Dynamic. You can use alot of projects from Adobe in Premiere. Awesome if you need to change some things and spares time.
-Effects can be easly copy and pastet on other clips. In Vegas you need to work with these Presetmode -.-'
-Pan, crop, zoom mode. Is much more easier as the Vegas stuff. To be honest it can´t do all of the things in the Vegas tool, but at least I don´t need it. The main things are here too.

Cons:
-You can´t change the project settings after aplying them at the beginning
-Horrible RAM usage. Vegas only needs around 1/10 to 4/10 of Premieres RAM. These leads to a lot of crashes when you don´t export the right way.
-More expensive than Vegas
-No pen tool, but After Effect has it.

In fact: Buying Vegas 6 for 99 bucks is the best thing you can do.
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Postby ZephyrStar » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:43 am

Agreed. I've barely touched Vegas and been a long time Premiere 6.5 user, but you can't beat what you get for the price with Vegas. I've been considering switching because of the efficiency/resource usage issue (and Vegas handles 24p nicely!) (And as far as aforementioned pans/effects/stuff, neither programs are really great for that, AE is where it's at.) I kinda figure no matter what NLE I end up with, I'll still probably always use AE and Photoshop.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:06 am

i tried playing with premeire the other day and the only thing good i could say about it was that its pan/crop function is a lot easier to use (once you find the damn thing)

when you add an effect to any clip it automatically pops up the settings menu, with premeire i had to go looking for it >:[
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Postby NS » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:25 am

CrackTheSky wrote:I use Vegas, so I'll pro/con that.

Pros:
-Vegas 6 is cheaper than any version of Premiere at only $99
-Vegas has a comprehensive Help file, so if you ever need to know how to do something it's a simple matter of just looking it up and reading up on it.
-Unlimited video tracks.
-Some nice stock effects, but most of them are admittedly crap.
-VERY nice masking/pen tools.
-Pretty easy to jump into; was for me at least.
-Can handle IVTC'd video at 23.976 fps in addition to 29.97 fps; Premiere can only handle video at 29.97 fps.
-Hotkeys speed things up a ton.
-Good at editing audio.

Cons:
-Crappy marker/snap functions.
-Absolutely horrendous and useless 3D tracking.
-Unwieldy blending modes; blending modes can't be applied to individual clips, instead they must be applied to entire tracks.
-Picky about rendering sped-up clips.


I don't know.. I've seen some videos with awesome use of the 3-D
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Postby Radical_Yue » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:42 am

Bauzi wrote:-Effects can be easly copy and pastet on other clips. In Vegas you need to work with these Presetmode -.-'



Right click clip with effect. Select copy.
Right click the clip you want to have the same effect on.
Select "Paste Event Attributes"


Done.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:16 am

NerdStrudel wrote:I don't know.. I've seen some videos with awesome use of the 3-D

That doesn't change the fact that it's the program's most poorly-implemented tool.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:30 am

Radical_Yue wrote:
Bauzi wrote:-Effects can be easly copy and pastet on other clips. In Vegas you need to work with these Presetmode -.-'



Right click clip with effect. Select copy.
Right click the clip you want to have the same effect on.
Select "Paste Event Attributes"


Done.


you can also apply an effect to an entire track, including keyframes and whatnot
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Postby Koopiskeva » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:32 pm

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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:38 pm

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Postby Zarxrax » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:22 pm

They both have completely different interfaces, which results in different styles of working. I have spent 10s of hours in vegas and I still can not get the hang of it. It feels horrible to me, while premiere feels quite intuitive. Try both and see what you like.
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Postby Kitsuner » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:59 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:-Unwieldy blending modes; blending modes can't be applied to individual clips, instead they must be applied to entire tracks.

So blending modes =/= Resample switches? Terminology always confuses me. <_<
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Postby CrackTheSky » Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:50 pm

Kitsuner wrote:
CrackTheSky wrote:-Unwieldy blending modes; blending modes can't be applied to individual clips, instead they must be applied to entire tracks.

So blending modes =/= Resample switches? Terminology always confuses me. <_<

I don't know what a resample switch is :/
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Resample switches

Postby post-it » Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:48 pm

.. the Resampling switches are not a myth, they are also not available in Primiere anymore nor in Vegas.

.. In Magix Pro 12, Vivid 9, Pennicles 11 Pro, AiST Extreme 5.0 and Avid's Extreme Producer they re-time the Videos for you and Optimize the Frame-Rates for easier Editing ( they call it Real-Time Editing. )

.. the only time Primiere ever had anything close to that was in Primiere 5.0 with its "match Audio" to "Video Length" Switch. I believe they dropped that switch because no one knew what it was for >_< nor how to use it!
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