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A trouble with particular AMVs

Postby Brigid » Tue May 01, 2007 6:38 pm

A while back I downloaded a couple of AMVs by one particular user. Both of them used clips from Studio Ghibli movies. One was a very nice piece for Howl's Moving Castle.

Thing is, they didn't play right. A green bar appeared at the top of the screen and the rest of the image was in greyscale, with occassional mists of primary colors.

I mentioned this in the comments I left, thinking that the maker really should know what had happened to her videos. I got a very rude reply.

Anyway, just today I downloaded another video. I didn't realize it at the time, but it was from the same user.

I was really disappointed. It was a Tsubasa video using the song Once Upon a December, which fit perfectly with the show. Not only that, but what I could see indicated very good capture and editing.

But that same wierd problem cropped up. The green bar, the greyscale, the ghosting effect, everything.

The video is in Windows Media Video format, but this same problem appears on Windows Media Player and RealPlayer.

I suppose it's possible I'm missing a codec or something like that, but why does it only happen with videos from that one user?

The main reason I'm asking is that these look like really good videos. I just wish I could play them. :cry:
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Postby DoomKitty » Tue May 01, 2007 6:42 pm

Umm... download bunches of codecs [like the K-Lite Codec Pack, any codec pack will work really, that's just the one I prefer] and stop using those media players! Instead, use one like VLC Media Player^^
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Postby Zarxrax » Tue May 01, 2007 6:46 pm

DoomKitty wrote:Umm... download bunches of codecs [like the K-Lite Codec Pack, any codec pack will work really, that's just the one I prefer]

Don't. That's a bad idea.

The suggestion to use VLC media player is good though. It contains decoders for everything built into the player, so you don't need any codecs.
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Postby Brigid » Tue May 01, 2007 6:58 pm

:shock: Um. Okay.

The weird thing is that every other video I've ever played works just fine.

where do I get VLC?
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Postby Cornwiggle » Tue May 01, 2007 7:05 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
DoomKitty wrote:Umm... download bunches of codecs [like the K-Lite Codec Pack, any codec pack will work really, that's just the one I prefer]

Don't. That's a bad idea.

The suggestion to use VLC media player is good though. It contains decoders for everything built into the player, so you don't need any codecs.


While that's good, if you ever want to USE codecs though...you won't be able to.


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Postby JaddziaDax » Tue May 01, 2007 7:10 pm

wmv shouldnt need a codec on wmp O.o
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Re: A trouble with particular AMVs

Postby Kitsuner » Tue May 01, 2007 7:14 pm

Brigid wrote:Thing is, they didn't play right. A green bar appeared at the top of the screen and the rest of the image was in greyscale, with occassional mists of primary colors.

That's an effect. It's supposed to look like that.
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Postby Brigid » Tue May 01, 2007 10:14 pm

It is? I find that a little hard to believe since that green bar gets in the way so much. Not to mention the odd 'ghosts' that flitter around the screen.

Anyone have any idea how to take a screen shot in Windows Media Player or RealPlayer? Because 'print screen' isn't working for this. I'd like to show a picture of what I'm talking about.
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Postby Scintilla » Tue May 01, 2007 10:20 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:wmv shouldnt need a codec on wmp O.o

Depends. The version of WMP you have may not have the latest versions of the WMV codec. However, you can always get the latest versions of the codec (for both WMP6.4 and WMP7+) from Microsoft's website.
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Postby badmartialarts » Tue May 01, 2007 10:24 pm

It sounds exactly like a colorspace issue. For some reason your Media Player isn't playing the video back in the right colorspace, which makes it do that. Either it was somehow mismade in the production process, or your computer is screwing up the conversion to RGB due to a bad codec.
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Postby Sereenie » Wed May 02, 2007 12:28 pm

That happened to me too a couple of months back. I think there are many versions of the wmv encoder, and one of them is causing problems if you haven't downloaded the latest version of the codec on Microsoft's website. Windows update doesn't install it automatically.

I downloaded the codec (no need to download WMP, btw, just the codec) and now everything is playing fine. I don't have the link for the codec, but you should find it easily by googling something like "wmv codec site:microsoft.com".

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Postby aesling » Wed May 02, 2007 12:34 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
DoomKitty wrote:Umm... download bunches of codecs [like the K-Lite Codec Pack, any codec pack will work really, that's just the one I prefer]

Don't. That's a bad idea.

The suggestion to use VLC media player is good though. It contains decoders for everything built into the player, so you don't need any codecs.


Yeah, but I've noticed that sometimes VLC is seriously allergic to anything in wmv, so I'm not sure that would help in this case.
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Postby Sub0 » Wed May 02, 2007 2:57 pm

Zarxrax wrote:
DoomKitty wrote:Umm... download bunches of codecs [like the K-Lite Codec Pack, any codec pack will work really, that's just the one I prefer]

Don't. That's a bad idea.

The suggestion to use VLC media player is good though. It contains decoders for everything built into the player, so you don't need any codecs.


just a few days ago I had an overlay problem that no codec would fix. I had to update my ATI drivers. It seems to be gone now.

anyway it looked like a codec problem, the videos just played in a blank window... as if you took a screenshot of the video in a non-compliant program. One of the first things I did was try VLC, but that didn't fix the problem. Just saying if VLC doesn't work, you may have to update your video drivers
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Postby Corran » Wed May 02, 2007 3:32 pm

This sounds like the user may not have been using a mod16 resolution. If you have ffdshow, you can open up the video decoder configuration tool and scroll down the left hand menu to miscellaneous. In work around encoder bugs area, check the box that says 'edge' and click ok. That should fix the problem if this is the cause. Too bad the user chose to not listen to you though... some people just don't know how to take criticism.
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Postby Corran » Wed May 02, 2007 3:35 pm

Actually... maybe I'm completely wrong... I didn't see that it was a wmv until just now.

EDIT: Based on what you have told us, I was able to find the videos you were refering to. The resolutions of these files are as follows:

856x480
428x240
856x480

In other words, the videos' widths are indeed not in multiples of 16. Try my suggestion in the post above and see if that works.
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