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Postby Satori » Wed Dec 04, 2002 10:48 am

I've been working with Ah! My Goddess the Movie, and having the worst trouble. My source is 720x480 and I'm trying to export it for the web at a smaller resolution. It just looks like crap though. Sometimes you can see a blind effect when I use rubberbands. This has never happened to me before. What's the best resolution for anamorphic video? I just want the best quality I can get from this video. At 480 or 720 after exporting it looks great, but something smaller does that effect. It also looks more pixelly too and not as sharp as I'd like in a smaller resolutin. I'm using the HUFFYUV codec.

Also after using TMPGEnc I'm just not getting that crisp look. It looks more like vhs footage which is aggrivating >< It's still coming out at 60 mbs though. I keep trying to up the bitrate, but the colors look faded to me. Some of my scenes fade to black, but it looks like they're fading to a very dull greyish black. This also makes the colors of the video look very dull.

Help, please. My video looks beautiful previewed and even exported at a high resolution, but as soon as I try to export with Premiere at 320 (or use TMPGEnc). it looks like crap. :cry:
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Postby Zarxrax » Wed Dec 04, 2002 11:38 am

I'd suggest you use Xvid or Divx to get the filesize down some while keeping a high resolution.
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Postby Satori » Wed Dec 04, 2002 1:23 pm

I just tried the Xvid method. It looks so good.
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Postby Satori » Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:05 am

The file size is still fairly large. Oh well. I think I'm going to give up until I can find a better host.
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Postby Zarxrax » Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:10 am

Assuming you do 2 pass, it lets you pick the filesize you want for the video. So if its coming out huge, its only because you are telling it to be huge. Note that the audio size isn't taken into account, you need to factor that in as well.
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Postby iserlohn » Thu Dec 05, 2002 6:14 am

Don't forget to compress your audio. This can knock a lot of space off.

And for Anamorphic video, what I usually do is export to some sort of lossless or near-lossless codec (like Huffy), and then do the following in VirtualDub:

1. Run a null transform and crop off the widescreen.
2. Resize to 640x336 (use Bilinear to shrink, Bicubic to expand)
3. Expand to 640x480 and reletterbox
4. Save AVI.

It's just as simple as that.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Dec 05, 2002 12:38 pm

HuffYUV is lossless, idiot.

And anyways, you don't need to do what the person above me outlined, it's as simple as running your file through AVISynth.

MPEG2Source("X:\<pathtofile>\<file>.d2v")
LanczosResize(720, 360)

And by the way, you don't export in Premiere as a different resolution as your source.

You always export in the resolution your source is, and then you resize with VDub/AVISynth.
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Postby trythil » Thu Dec 05, 2002 12:54 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:HuffYUV is lossless, idiot.


Not always. If you try to compress RGB by converting to YUV2 first, then some data is lost in the conversion.
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Postby Ashyukun » Thu Dec 05, 2002 2:16 pm

This seems like a good opportunity to ask this question- is the Lanczos Resize part of the standard AMVapp?
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Postby TokyoU15 » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:22 pm

This seems like a good opportunity to ask this question- is the Lanczos Resize part of the standard AMVapp?


I don't think you NEED the AMVapp to be able to use this, but it is explained in the documentations.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:31 pm

Ashyukun wrote:This seems like a good opportunity to ask this question- is the Lanczos Resize part of the standard AMVapp?



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It's not a program or anything, just an AVISynth command. You can download AVISynth from say Sourceforge, and it will have the command in it because it's just a command.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Dec 05, 2002 3:32 pm

trythil wrote:
NicholasDWolfwood wrote:HuffYUV is lossless, idiot.


Not always. If you try to compress RGB by converting to YUV2 first, then some data is lost in the conversion.



But you only need to convert to RGB if for example fancy filtering in Vdub or fancy effects in Premiere, and even then, you cannot notice the data loss because it's not noticable to the human eye.
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Postby Ashyukun » Fri Dec 06, 2002 8:31 am

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:It's not a program or anything, just an AVISynth command. You can download AVISynth from say Sourceforge, and it will have the command in it because it's just a command.


Sorry, that question wasn't perhaps worded the best- I should have asked if it was a standard part of AVISynth, not the AMVApp (as AVISynth is included in the 'App). As I understand it, you can add additional filters into AVISynth.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Fri Dec 06, 2002 3:30 pm

It's not a filter either. It's a standard resize line, it's already been programmed into AVISynth.

And yes, you can add aditional filters into AVISynth. If you have the AmvApp, you just put the filter dll file into the C:\AVSFilters or where ever the AVISynth filters are installed. If you don't have AMVApp and you installed AVISynth alone, just stick the file into any dir you like, and type

LoadPlugin("X:\<dir>\<file>.dll")
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