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Question about Trigun DVD's

Postby Cole » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:30 pm

I just finished up a Trigun video, and looking at the finished product, I'm wondering if I should have ripped the DVDs instead of capturing from them. There is noticeable color bleed throughout the video, though nothing that ruins the picture quality. I know alot of you have made Trigun videos, have you ever noticed color bleed when you rip your footage?

Also, when I started working on this last weekend, I spent a day re-watching the whole series to find good footage. Is it just me, or does every DVD after the first one seem to be of less quality video-wise? Not that it looks bad, I mean that the first DVD looks, well, cleaned up, and the rest of them look like I'm watching it off regular cable.

Also, Pioneer was really skimpy with extras on those discs.
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Re: Question about Trigun DVD's

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Oct 06, 2003 12:50 am

Cole wrote:I just finished up a Trigun video, and looking at the finished product, I'm wondering if I should have ripped the DVDs instead of capturing from them. There is noticeable color bleed throughout the video, though nothing that ruins the picture quality. I know alot of you have made Trigun videos, have you ever noticed color bleed when you rip your footage?

Also, when I started working on this last weekend, I spent a day re-watching the whole series to find good footage. Is it just me, or does every DVD after the first one seem to be of less quality video-wise? Not that it looks bad, I mean that the first DVD looks, well, cleaned up, and the rest of them look like I'm watching it off regular cable.

Also, Pioneer was really skimpy with extras on those discs.


Anata wa baka desu!!!

If you have the option, ALWAYS rip DVD footage. You lose heaps of quality when you analog capture from a digital source.
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Postby dokidoki » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:12 am

If you're referring to the rainbowing on the R1 Trigun discs, try my rainbow reduction filter.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:14 am

dokidoki wrote:If you're referring to the rainbowing on the R1 Trigun discs, try my rainbow reduction filter.
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But he's capturing... from DVD's !!! Why doesnt he just rip them?
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Postby dokidoki » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:22 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:But he's capturing... from DVD's !!! Why doesnt he just rip them?

So what? It's already done. Rather than telling him, "hey stoopid, redo the video", I'm trying to, you know, help.
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Postby dokidoki » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:23 am

...and the filter is useful EVEN IF you ripped instead of captured. Trigun is one of a number of R1 DVDs that don't look good even when ripped.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:26 am

dokidoki wrote:...and the filter is useful EVEN IF you ripped instead of captured. Trigun is one of a number of R1 DVDs that don't look good even when ripped.


Whats this R1 thing? Region 1 by any chance? I wouldn't have that problem, I'm in a Region 4 country. A region 4 PAL country too. w00t.
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Postby dokidoki » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:28 am

Yes, region 1. R1 doesn't have a monopoly on poor production values, but I don't have any R4 examples. Whatever.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:30 am

dokidoki wrote:Yes, region 1. R1 doesn't have a monopoly on poor production values, but I don't have any R4 examples. Whatever.


Hey? Poor production values? Whassis?
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Postby Cole » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:35 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:
dokidoki wrote:If you're referring to the rainbowing on the R1 Trigun discs, try my rainbow reduction filter.
[plug] http://www.doki.ca/filters/ [/plug]


But he's capturing... from DVD's !!! Why doesnt he just rip them?


*stands off to the side as question is asked in front of his face to somebody else who not only doesn't know but doesn't care either*


I usually capture because I take short segments. Ripping takes too long for my tastes, especially when what I want is only for a minute or two from a 15 minute long VOB file which would take an hour to rip/encode on my computer just so I can edit and re-encode again. I don't do this for a living, and I like to make the most of my free time when I edit (i.e using my computer instead of letting it sit idle for hours ripping DVD's). If I was stuck with only ripping footage, I doubt I'd do this very often.

Thanks for the filter link, dd, I'll check it out. Might come in handy with some other DVD's.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:38 am

Cole wrote:
SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:
dokidoki wrote:If you're referring to the rainbowing on the R1 Trigun discs, try my rainbow reduction filter.
[plug] http://www.doki.ca/filters/ [/plug]


But he's capturing... from DVD's !!! Why doesnt he just rip them?


*stands off to the side as question is asked in front of his face to somebody else who not only doesn't know but doesn't care either*


I usually capture because I take short segments. Ripping takes too long for my tastes, especially when what I want is only for a minute or two from a 15 minute long VOB file which would take an hour to rip/encode on my computer just so I can edit and re-encode again. I don't do this for a living, and I like to make the most of my free time when I edit (i.e using my computer instead of letting it sit idle for hours ripping DVD's). If I was stuck with only ripping footage, I doubt I'd do this very often.

Thanks for the filter link, dd, I'll check it out. Might come in handy with some other DVD's.


Dont be a smartass.... did you know that using SmartRipper, you can take sections of the episodes, and it in fact takes longer to set up and perform a capture than it does to rip DVDs? If you're going to analogue capture a DVD, don't complain about the quality loss. Its your own fault. I used to capture, but I got a DVD Rom and never looked back. And if its price you're worried about? Do some goddamm research, DVD ROMS are cheap as these days. Less than 60 bucks Australian.
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Postby Cole » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:41 am

My question wasn't about quality loss. It was about color bleeding on Trigun R1's. I'm fine with the quality I usually get from capturing.
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Postby Cole » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:05 am

Sorry, double post AND shameless plug:

If you wanna see the bleed (or "rainbowing") I was talking about, you can check out my Trigun vid. It's apparent in several scenes.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:16 am

Cole wrote:Sorry, double post AND shameless plug:

If you wanna see the bleed (or "rainbowing") I was talking about, you can check out my Trigun vid. It's apparent in several scenes.


Ah its alright. I do know what you're on about, its just...i scratch my head and wonder "why" when I see people say theyd rather capture than rip. Sorry if I was a bit harsh.
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Postby Cole » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:24 am

No biggie. Being the amatuer that I am, I really don't notice the quality loss when I capture, at least not to the point that it freaks me. When I upgrade my system I'll probably start ripping, but I haven't gotten any complaints about video quality since my first AMV :) Now if I could only download a "kick-ass AMV editing skillz" filter.
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