Gee whizz! Look at what I stepped in![reconstructing frames]

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Gee whizz! Look at what I stepped in![reconstructing frames]

Postby CaTaClYsM » Wed Aug 27, 2003 8:16 pm

I stepped in the X movie DVD.

First, I want to say that this movie must have been interlaced by Satan himself. I want to reconstruct the original movie frames and I'll do whatever it takes to acomplish it. What filters/scripts/unholy chants from the necronomicon must I use to get it back to the way it should be?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby jonmartensen » Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:10 pm

Try checking with Beowulf, he did an amv with X and chemical brothers (although, he might have used X TV :? )
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Postby turboneko » Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:10 pm

I did an X AMV last year... and I promised myself to not do it again :x

The bottomline is: it's not possible to reconstruct the original frames, since the idiots who produced the DVD put interlace artifacts in both the even and odd fields (basically it's possible to reconstruct only 1 frame out of 5 :?)

My suggestion at this point would be just to not IVTC and deinterlace instead (or, if you are brave enough, do the IVTC and then deinterlace what's left).

I really, really, really share your pain man...
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:07 pm

Isn't there a way to manually IVTC a movie in TMPG? I mean, there must be SOMETHING?? I just want it to stand on the record that I WILL sell my soul to the devil if that's what it takes.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby klinky » Thu Aug 28, 2003 5:41 pm

You can't IVTC if they did the 'TC' part wrong :P.

It sounds like they royally fucked the disc up.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:23 pm

would you like screens? I'd be more than happy to share the pain.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:38 pm

Any ideas for deinterlacing and then removing the extra frames?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Aug 28, 2003 6:50 pm

If you want FILM FPS footage, do this...deinterlace and then remove 5 frames per second, although in most cases that gives jerky frames
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:00 pm

Which is what I want to aviod. I only want ot kill the frames that shouldn't be there. (Which I'm guessing would be the frames with the ghosting after I deinterlace.) Which brings me back the the manual IVTCing.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby Jebadia » Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:47 pm

a long while ago when I was just noob learning deinterlacing methods, I ran into the same problem when trying to rip and reencode the X movie. One method that worked...but I wouldn't recommend trying unless you were really...REALLY depserate...is to use Vdub's "Field Bob" filter, using smooth on both odd and even fields. As I said, unless you are really desparate and there is no other way, then you should try this, cause your not gonna get the best results from it.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:18 pm

Could you elaborate? Am I supposed to you this in combination with anything?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:44 pm

Well so far the Telecide without blending filter in the guide seems to give the best results of any AVISynth script I've seen. That and the Field bob (thanks by the way.) seem to work the best.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:12 pm

new update. The script causes (at least for this movie) jagged edges around the characters when the filter hits frames that had interlacing.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby klinky » Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:59 pm

Most de-interlace filters cause jagged edges...
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:53 pm

well to quote the great Winnie the Pooh.

Oh bother.

I know that decent video quality is doable. Otaku Productions' video Children of Fate was damn good. And I couldn't see any interlacing problems at all. (Part of the reason I was caught off gaurd when I saw how bad the interlacing REALLY was.)
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