Cleaning up fansubs, how?

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Cleaning up fansubs, how?

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:44 pm

I have the entire series of X on my computer, fansubs, seeing as they aren't available on DVD here yet. I'm making a music video and I'm going to be using the series footage, but I need to clean up the footage, some a little, some alot. It's all been encoded using DivX ;) 3.11 Low Motion, and some of the encoding is low bitrate. Now, using virtualdub, what filters and methods should I use to clean up:

Artifacts
"Dragging", where an onscreen object is leaving streaks, or after-images
Mosquito noise around the edges of objects
General bad encoding

I've heard that you can get alot more quality out of your footage using several filters and encoding methods. And I've seen evidence of it too.

Thanks
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Postby Zarxrax » Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:58 pm

Spatial and Temporal Smoothers.
www.avisynth.org
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:03 am

I cant get avisynth to work for me. At all. I have tried literally EVERY method that people have suggested, and I still get unrecognized exceptions.

But kudos for the quick reply.
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Postby Shun » Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:04 am

Every method you say? i thought this aswell.

Then i realised i was using microsoft word and not notepad.

For me this changed it and it worked beautifully, make SURE you use notepad, meh maybe you are and this is pointless, but oh well :)
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Aug 13, 2003 12:10 am

Shun wrote:Every method you say? i thought this aswell.

Then i realised i was using microsoft word and not notepad.

For me this changed it and it worked beautifully, make SURE you use notepad, meh maybe you are and this is pointless, but oh well :)


I'm not an idiot, ok? I know how to write avs scripts. New text document -> type the script -> save as -> *.avs (where * is your filename) making sure that under File Type it says "All Files", otherwise it will save as a text document anyway, not an AVS file.

The first rule of AVS file-making is "Use notepad". I don't know how the fuck you'd get word and notepad mixed up.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:13 am

Actually, I maybe dont need to use AVISynth after all. I just found the MSmooth and MSharpen filters for VirtualDub (I was intending to try and get AVISynth to work; so i downloaded v 2.5 and the same filters as above) so maybe I won't need to use AVISynth after all.
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Postby turboneko » Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:46 am

Refer also to Quu's guide on how to clean up footage
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Re: Cleaning up fansubs, how?

Postby jonmartensen » Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:32 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:I have the entire series of X on my computer, fansubs, seeing as they aren't available on DVD here yet.


You could try buying it on the internet, as long as you don't live in "the following countries: Mexico, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Rwanda, Sudan, Yugoslavia"
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Postby Tab. » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:50 pm

turboneko wrote:Refer also to Quu's guide on how to clean up footage


I can't reccommend quu's method, at least for anime footage. Dunno about CG game footage. The concept of upsizing by 16x sounded a bit ridiculous and against the point of most filters (getting rid of noise and macroblocks.. which are easier to detect when they're smaller) so I tried it out and.. well, avisynth wouldn't process more than 1 frame at that size without throwing an access violation, and vdub..

original frame

quu's method

regular 2dcleaner without resizing

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Postby zalas » Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:18 pm

Not sure, but the noise I see in that picture maybe just film grain :/

The point of resizing is (I believe) you give the cleaner more space to work with. Hence, it can try to get more quality out of it at the higher resolution. Then, when you resize it down, it's doing an intelligent shrinking.

Ignore this if I'm wrong ^^; My head's kinda not too clear at the moment.
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Postby turboneko » Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:25 pm

Yeah, Quu's method is probably more oriented towards game footage... I forgot the wonders of the 2dcleaner :P

Out of curiosity: did you apply the 2dcleaner to the image upped up to 16x?
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Postby Tab. » Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:19 pm

I tried all combos, 2dcleaner in place of blurmore + sshq for the 2560x1920 frame, sshq in place of 2dcleaner for the 640x480 frame. They all looked almost exactly the same.
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Postby zalas » Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:19 pm

I assume 2dcleaner has some sort of a radius option. Did you pump up the radius option in the cleaner? I mean, you *are* dealing with larger blocks.
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Postby Tab. » Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:13 pm

it was at max buddy :/
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Postby FurryCurry » Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:47 pm

Tab. wrote:it was at max buddy :/


Details, please. Inquiring minds want to know.

screenshots or scripts, preferably.
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