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Split screen issues

Postby OtakuForLife » Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:28 am

My split screen looks good half black and white for memories and
half color for current time. But, I have a slight problem I want the
bottom black and white track to lightup blue and jump out on
the beats. I tryed Motion but that just crashed my computer over and over again... any help would much appercated :)
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Re: Split screen issues

Postby turboneko » Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:51 am

OtakuForLife wrote:But, I have a slight problem I want the bottom black and white track to lightup blue and jump out on
the beats.


With jumpout do you mean zooming towards the screen? If you wanna do that then motion settings is the best answer (there was a camera filter that you can try to play with, but i don't remember the name off hand).

Anyway, the crashing may be related to your video source: are you using divx files for your clips? (divx for editing = teh evil)
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Postby TokyoU15 » Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:24 pm

OtakuForLife, do you by any chance have After Effects? It would be so much easier with AE, but if you don't have it...It'll be a pain in the fucking ass. I hate Premiere's motion settings.

There's really no other way to do that in Premiere other than the motion settings and rubber bands. Like Turboneko said, if you're using Divx, that's why it's most likely crashing.
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Postby OtakuForLife » Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:10 am

have after effects but decided not to use it in this AMV ,but,
sitll would like to know how-to incase I decide to use it in
the next one :)
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Postby zalas » Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:21 pm

A straightforward way in AfterFX would be to apply a tint effect to your black and white track. You then change over time the tint amount value and also the scale value (in the built in transform properties inside the layer).
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Postby madbunny » Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:16 pm

how about a sequence mask from photoshop? Be a pain in the ass to do major sequences, but for repeating 'flashes' it shouldn't be something that you'll finish in the retirement home.
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Postby klinky » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:01 pm

Are you looking for something like this :

http://klinky.home.comcast.net/split-bounce.avi


":-|

That was done rather simply in Premiere. But only one half can bounce.. Well ":O there is probably some way around that, I think. Also the split screen may only work with the "squshed" mode. Since Premiere doesn't have a proper "Crop" effect :\ 'cuz it's teh suck. But anyways.

Tell me if that's it and I'll explain... ":O
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Postby TokyoU15 » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:11 pm

Klinky, with a mixture of Crop and Clipping, you can get it to look quite natural. Just gotta mess with it.
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Postby klinky » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:31 pm

No, because Clip does not support alpha channel. It supports a FILL color. Which is crappy. You can key it out, but you can't use effects that use the Alpha after that because Premiere = teh suck.

Crop is no better. Inaccurate percentages or no more than 20pixels? Pfft, com'on :roll:

I don't see how you could do a split screen with just Clip & Crop.
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Postby klinky » Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:36 pm

Oh and another thing. Using my method, you could make a "real" split screen using a track matte that transformed with the image. But I didn't feel like fussing with it.

Also I just realized that "Clip & Crop" are redundant. They both suck ass, which makes them both rather useless :\
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Postby OtakuForLife » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:13 pm

yeah that was it klinky makes my quicktime color fill verison
look like crap.. How did you do it though? Used Clip and black
Alpha matte for the overlays (if that helps any) After this I may want
to redo my entire animix track.
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Postby OtakuForLife » Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:17 pm

To give an idea of what I want done:

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Postby TokyoU15 » Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:15 am

Klinky, I never actually tried adding Alpha effects after using the clip. I find it best to create a split screen with After Effects because like Klinky said...premiere = teh suck, especially its motion settings.
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Postby klinky » Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:46 am

TokyoU15 wrote:Klinky, I never actually tried adding Alpha effects after using the clip. I find it best to create a split screen with After Effects because like Klinky said...premiere = teh suck, especially its motion settings.


Oh I sounded pretty bitchy there didn't I? :?


Klinky, with a mixture of Crop and Clipping, you can get it to look quite natural. Just gotta mess with it.


:o tho what did you mean here ?

As for how the the effect was done.

The one you want to do the 'burst' goes on top track. The other goes on the bottom track.

Then apply the Transform effect. apply 50% on the verticle. I positioned the burst clip on the bottom. The other clip on the top. You could put the clips anywhere, so long as they're opposite each other. You could also squish by horizontal instead.

I applied a Black & White effect to the one that would do the burst(since it wasn't B&W already).

Added the Color Balance effect to the clip that's going to burst. Enabled keyframing on both Color Balance & Transform.

Transform was keyframed like so:

Key1: Height:50% - Width:%100
Key2: Height:75% - Width:%110
Key3: Height:50% - Width:%100

Each keyframe had three frames inbetween.

In the exact same locations. I switched over to the Color Balance effect.

Key1: Blue:100
Key2: Blue:200
Key3: Blue:100

Each has three frames inbetween.

This should do it.

I didn't quite get the effect you posted a picture of. Is that your actual video? How are you getting the "wavey" boarder effect? Swirl(doubtful)? Track-matte?

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Postby OtakuForLife » Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:49 pm

polar cords and proper cliping . NOw I must consut my Adobe book to
translate what you said :)
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