How do I re-telecine?

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How do I re-telecine?

Postby Chaos Angel » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:35 pm

Ok, I know I'm an absolute idiot for not knowing this, but I looked through the guides and could not find how to do this.

How would I go about re-telecining progressive footage? If this IS in the guides, and I missed it, just say so and I'll look through it again. Thanks.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:42 pm

It's in the video section in the "Useful AVISynth Scripts" thing under "Advanced Scripting" or something like that.
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Postby trythil » Mon Jun 09, 2003 9:47 pm

There was a thread a while back that contained some AVISynth code by Ian that would do NTSC telecine on a 24fps progressive source:

Code: Select all
AssumeFrameBased
ComplementParity
SeparateFields
SelectEvery(8, 0,1, 2,3,2, 5,4, 7,6,7)
Weave


That should work if you want to encode a telecined MPEG-2 (which I'm pretty sure is top field first. DVD MPEG-2, anyway, is...) If you want to go to DV, delete "ComplementParity" and you'll get bottom-field first.
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Postby the Black Monarch » Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:55 pm

How would I go about re-telecining progressive footage?


Step 1: Write a will
Step 2: Shoot yourself in the head
Step 3: In your next life, don't re-telecine your videos.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:13 pm

roflmao

You have to re-telecine if for example you want to have a copy and get it broadcasted on TV, etc.

Trust me, the AVISynth telecine doesn't look bad.

http://cyberg.mine.nu/~vash/YYH/image_telecine.htm
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Postby Tab. » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:20 pm

let's jump on the
NTSC compatible train!

there you go, nick said it while I hit preview
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Postby the Black Monarch » Wed Jun 11, 2003 2:49 am

Tab. wrote:let's jump on the
NTSC compatible train!


NTSC can suck donkey.
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Postby Ashyukun » Wed Jun 11, 2003 7:23 am

the Black Monarch wrote:NTSC can suck donkey.


Maybe so, but it's what the vast majority of us here have to deal with for the time being. If we didn't have it, we'd likely have a dozen or so incompatible proprietary formats and there would be far less variety in what would be available because the stations would have to broadcast in several different formats to get the most viewers and would have less money for running different channels. It may suck, but we know very well how it sucks and how to deal with it- well, most of us at least.
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Postby Tab. » Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:53 am

hey black monarch, remember that time you went around pissing everyone off and then said it was really your brother?

yeah, I thought so.
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Postby the Black Monarch » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:49 pm

Ashyukun wrote:Maybe so, but it's what the vast majority of us here have to deal with for the time being. If we didn't have it, we'd likely have a dozen or so incompatible proprietary formats and blah blah blah blah blah.


Umm... no. If we didn't have NTSC, then we'd use 24 progressive frames per second, AKA "FILM"
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Postby Tab. » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:54 pm

if we didn't have ntsc, we wouldnt fucken be editing right now, because there WOULD BE NO TV.
They are trying to replace ntsc, it's called hdtv, and you see how long that's taking to actually get working.
This is why we still have ntsc and why we still need to use it.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:59 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:
Ashyukun wrote:Maybe so, but it's what the vast majority of us here have to deal with for the time being. If we didn't have it, we'd likely have a dozen or so incompatible proprietary formats and blah blah blah blah blah.


Umm... no. If we didn't have NTSC, then we'd use 24 progressive frames per second, AKA "FILM"


FILM still uses NTSC/PAL you dumb fuck.
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Postby the Black Monarch » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:18 am

if we didn't have ntsc, we wouldnt fucken be editing right now, because there WOULD BE NO TV


Umm... I'm sorry, but what law of physics requires TV to use NTSC? In an infinite number of alternate universes out there, TVs all operate at 24 progressive frames per second and no one has ever heard of interlacing or NTSC. These universes are inhabited by people smarter than us.
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Postby klinky » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:49 am

It's the same reason we don't all have magical fuel-cell cars. So much money has been put into the TV infrastructure that you're stuck until everyone who put money into it agrees on a new standard.

It would be annoying if when color TV came out and only certain stations worked with certain TVs. Heh, no one would want that. Not many people out there get the idea that "this is better use it". No people think "this has always worked so why change it".

I doubt you knew about NTSC or PAL TV for years and years. I bet you didn't care. Until now. Until you see how "dumb" it is. Well that's the majority of the population. No one knows, no one cares. They will care if the $20 TV they bought at the garage sale doesn't work anymore because the standard for TV broadcasts changed the week before.


Also that alternate universe you speak of is "The Future".


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Postby the Black Monarch » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:51 am

klinky wrote:I doubt you knew about NTSC or PAL TV for years and years. I bet you didn't care. Until now. Until you see how "dumb" it is. Well that's the majority of the population.


Yeah, but as soon as I knew, I cared :)
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