is there a dvd rippper out there that works that i can dl?

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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Wed Apr 02, 2003 7:07 pm

NDW, just shut the fuck up. Everything you say is wrong.

If u are gonna encode into DivX, use the quality encoding as opposed to a bitrate setting, and use 100% quality. Its handy, and decent enough for a beginner to use.
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Postby Larg0 » Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:19 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
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Deaths_ally wrote:AVI (uncompresed) or Mpg are the best

Now, I don't know much about WMM, but I know for sure that there is no native support for MPEG1 in Premiere. Also, AVI uncompressed is kind of... unwieldy... to say the least. Huffy might be a better choice, but even that can be excessively large. Use DV if you get into trouble (I want to buy one of those hardware decoders!! They look sooooo cool!)


wtf

I've used MPEG-1 in Premiere just fine, besides all the side-effects of using MPEG-1.

BTW, don't take Larg0's advice. Ripping into DivX = bad.


Please tell me how it is bad.

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Postby RadicalEd0 » Wed Apr 02, 2003 10:21 pm

Because it's horrible to edit with. Not only are there not nearly enough keyframes, but it often causes both premiere and WMM to crash, as well as the whole quality degradion factor.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Apr 03, 2003 4:10 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:NDW, just shut the fuck up. Everything you say is wrong.

If u are gonna encode into DivX, use the quality encoding as opposed to a bitrate setting, and use 100% quality. Its handy, and decent enough for a beginner to use.


wtf

Everything *YOU* say is wrong. I don't know what shit you're smokin', but DivX is bad to use. Besides the whole quality going down FACTOR, it makes Premiere and WMM crash.

BTW, MPEG-1 works in Premiere fine, but the quality is shit for editing and there's not enough keyframes.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:02 pm

as far as the space to quality ratio is concerned mpeg-4 is better than 1 or 2, there is no disputing that. It may be a bitch to edit but it will look a hell of a lot better than if you used mpeg 1 or 2.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:04 pm

So you're telling me that DivX fansubs look better than MPEG-2 DVDs? Okay, you're just a plain fucking idiot.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:14 pm

Ive seen some MPEG-4 AVI's in DivX that look better than MPEG-2 DVD's, you stupid fucking troll. Just shut the fuck up.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:38 pm

ROFL

I'm a troll? I don't think so.

BTW, that's theoretically impossible. R1 or R2 DVDs are better than DivX MPEG-4s ultimately.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu Apr 03, 2003 7:52 pm

Yeah, and ultimately you have your head up your fat arse. Go fuck a tree, you 11 year old loser.

Oh and by the way, I think your "Losing Close Friends" video sucked. You call that editing? I could get a better result by dropping my hard drive off a 10 story building and setting it on fire. Random Scenes + Music does not equal a music video.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Apr 03, 2003 8:17 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:ROFL

I'm a troll? I don't think so.

BTW, that's theoretically impossible. R1 or R2 DVDs are better than DivX MPEG-4s ultimately.

only because we don't have access to the digibeta footage.
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Thu Apr 03, 2003 8:59 pm

ok, mpeg4 is a better compression standard than mpeg1 and 2 in alot of ways. Of course encoding a DVD to divx and then comparing the dvd source to the divx as source the DVD is going to be better. But encoding a dvd to mpeg1 or re encoding to mpeg2 and taking that vs divx mpeg4 would clearly be better (at similar bitrates at least).
Figure out what you guys are arguing about before you start arguing. I believe cat was comparing the codecs themselves, not a master dvd vs divx.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Apr 03, 2003 9:15 pm

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:wtf

I've used MPEG-1 in Premiere just fine, besides all the side-effects of using MPEG-1.

BTW, don't take Larg0's advice. Ripping into DivX = bad.


Argueing in favor of MPEG - 4 vs MPEG - 1. I think the original footage should be used whenever possible, but if a lossy codec needs to be used I would sooner use MPEG - 4 than MPEG - 1.
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Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Sun Apr 06, 2003 10:28 pm

why do you even bother trying to argue against NDW anyway? Its a pointless waste of time and you know it! Any time you gain the edge on him, he'll insult you and do a juvenile little victory dance. The only reason he's still a member of this site is because Phade is weak and capitulates to the demands of people who are fascists!!
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Postby paizuri » Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:36 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:why do you even bother trying to argue against NDW anyway? Its a pointless waste of time and you know it! Any time you gain the edge on him, he'll insult you and do a juvenile little victory dance. The only reason he's still a member of this site is because Phade is weak and capitulates to the demands of people who are fascists!!


Why do YOU even bother posting when you have nothing useful to contribute to the conversation? You know, it's possible to prove someone wrong without resorting to insults at the same time. If all you're doing is insulting someone, then DON'T POST. All you're doing is making these forums more unpleasant.

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Postby jbone » Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:07 pm

Y'know, SS5_Majin_Bebi, although NDW is very belligerent and antagonistic, he does know a fuckton more about this than you apparently do. So just stop wating your breath and maybe that vein in your forehead will stop bulging. :P
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