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Postby CaTaClYsM » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:04 am

ok, I need definitive answers, in the low bitrate range (128 and lower), what audio codecs produce the best sound?
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:36 am

ogg vorbis and realaudio 8
realaudio can go much lower than vorbis, I've encoded stuff at 32 kbps (stereo) and it's been bearable. 64kbps is fine for general use. 48 is pushing it.
Vorbis sounds fine at 96kbps (it cant go much lower though)
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Postby jbone » Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:46 am

Just use mp3, it's practically a universal standard. Most people still can't use Ogg Vorbis, and plenty of people still refuse to use Real (due to all the extra system-invading crap they include with the proprietary player).
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Postby klinky » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:07 am

Actually RealOne is pretty good. They have quite good cross platform support.

Only problem >_> <_<. Their reputation is tarnished for having crap for the longest time :\


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Postby Azalin » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:09 am

klinky wrote:Actually RealOne is pretty good. They have quite good cross platform support.

Only problem >_> <_<. Their reputation is tarnished for having crap for the longest time :\


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Agreed. RealOne seems to be ok. I'd have to go with Ogg Vorbis on this one though
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Postby jbone » Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:25 am

I don't like RealOne at all. It makes many covert system modifications - not spyware-related, but invasive nonetheless. I had to go into my registry and manually remove several keys in order to prevent RealOne from autostarting some of its sub-applications on system startup.

The previous RealPlayer was far less invasive.
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Postby Ashton » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:16 am

jbone wrote:I don't like RealOne at all. It makes many covert system modifications - not spyware-related, but invasive nonetheless. I had to go into my registry and manually remove several keys in order to prevent RealOne from autostarting some of its sub-applications on system startup.

The previous RealPlayer was far less invasive.

I don't think it matter though. Because I think there is a way to install 3rd party player that works fine. Correct me if I'm wrong, TAB?
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:46 am

yeah, there is a package floating around which installs real's codecs, in which case you can then use mpc to playback realone. And anyway, cat merely asked what put out best quality, not what was well supported, liked, or universal :|
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Postby RadicalEd0 » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:48 am

blayback realmedia!* not realone :| expect me to be absent minded during vb class
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Postby iserlohn » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:52 am

What are you doing that you need codecs that low? If you're using music, forget it, keep the bits, people will forgive you. If this is spoken word (like audiobooks or drama cd's, etc.), you can get away with 64k mp3 on the high end and 32 on the low end...24 gives wmp6.4 and some portables issues.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:46 pm

BTW, it needs to be a codec I can put into an AVI, ogg audio, as good as it is, wont work, as well as anything else than cannot be slapped into an AVI.
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Postby iserlohn » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:07 pm

Ogg can be attached to an AVI just fine. I've got an episode of L-Gaim with ogg audio, it just requires a directshow filter to run properly.
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Postby jbone » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:02 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:yeah, there is a package floating around which installs real's codecs, in which case you can then use mpc to playback realone.

If that's the case, please tell us what to look for, and/or where to find it. :)
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:18 pm

my bad, I thought that if you were going to use OGG audio in a vid it would need to be an OGM.
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Postby iserlohn » Wed Mar 05, 2003 12:33 am

Arguably it is...but I renamed it to .avi and it works fine. The big thing is to get the filters installed.
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