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Re: Need Help!

Postby Moonlight Soldier » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:15 am

Hmm I don't have Vegas so I can't give you any step-by-step on how to export, (maybe there's a friendly Vegas user online who can help); but essentially, you want to pick a file type that's going to give you the highest quality export available.

Huffyuv and lagarith are examples of codecs that do that for .avi files.

You can get those codecs from the AMVapp and a nifty program called ZarxGui, which will then take your high quality file (or lossless file) and compress it to a more manageable size.

(For example, usually when I export my lossless file will be like 2 gigs, and then I run it through ZarxGUI to get a file that's maybe 15mbs, but still looks good.)

It's possible that if you install huffyuv or lagarith they might become options when you go to save your file, but I can't say for sure since I don't have Vegas. ^^''
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Re: Need Help!

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:19 am

Moonlight Soldier wrote:Hmm I don't have Vegas so I can't give you any step-by-step on how to export, (maybe there's a friendly Vegas user online who can help); but essentially, you want to pick a file type that's going to give you the highest quality export available.

Huffyuv and lagarith are examples of codecs that do that for .avi files.

You can get those codecs from the AMVapp and a nifty program called ZarxGui, which will then take your high quality file (or lossless file) and compress it to a more manageable size.

(For example, usually when I export my lossless file will be like 2 gigs, and then I run it through ZarxGUI to get a file that's maybe 15mbs, but still looks good.)

It's possible that if you install huffyuv or lagarith they might become options when you go to save your file, but I can't say for sure since I don't have Vegas. ^^''


Well the only thing with avi is that their hard for me to work with like avi are the type of files I try not to work with I usually have to convert them which then I also lose quality when I do that because for some reason Sony Vegas pro 9 won't work with most avi files. or at least I can't get it to work.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby Moonlight Soldier » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:30 am

Hmm, hopefully someone who has Vegas will help you out.

I use Magix and generally edit with lossless avi clips or mp4s, and then export to a lossless avi and compress from there (as described in that previous post).

But I can't really help you further since I don't use Vegas :X Sorry.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby Kariudo » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:31 am

it's not the .avi that vegas is having problems with, it's the codec used to encode those files (most likely xvid or divx).
Lagarith encoded .avi files play nicely with Vegas when you import stuff, and you shouldn't have problems rendering using it.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:48 am

Yeah I try to use mp4 im experimenting with the different ways of doing this. I think one of the problems is that the files were orginally mkv and then I converted it to mp4 but the size of the video was the standard for the ipod and then I cropped it back to HD so idk that could also be a factor in this. I need to get a different converter.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby Moonlight Soldier » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:52 am

Heh yea, I think if you went from a size for an iPod back to HD, that is most likely your problem.

If you have the harddrive space and your computer can handle it, try editing with higher quality files, or at least when you convert the clips you need, keep them the same size (720p or whatever) that you want to eventually export in. Otherwise you're just going to steadily lose video quality as you go back and forth converting.

Something to keep in mind for next time ;o
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Re: Need Help!

Postby NS » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:53 am

Convert the mkvs to Lagarith lossless (.avi) and edit with those, Then when you render your video export an uncompressed .avi and then run that through zarxgui to get your mp4, and run it through vdub to get your high quality xvid which works best for youtube.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby NS » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:54 am

when I say "run it through vdub" I mean your uncompressed .avi not the mp4
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Re: Need Help!

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:56 am

I got to get a different converter because the converter I use it doesn't convert HD clips like I lose quality each time so I gotta try and get a good converter.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby NS » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:57 am

Get the amvapp and use vdub to convert all your .vobs or mkvs to lagarith lossless.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby Kariudo » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:04 am

Unless there's some problem with vegas' rendering (don't use vegas myself), rendering with a lossless codec should be fine.
There's also debugmode frameserver if space is running tight
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Re: Need Help!

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:08 am

Thanks im installing right now. We shall see how it works out. MKV files are awesome but at the same time a pain -_-
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Re: Need Help!

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:09 am

Its weird sometimes I hear everyone uses Sony Vegas other ppl its mostly stuff on mac which I wish I oculd get but to expansive.
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Re: Need Help!

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:14 am

the vdub thing doesnt want to work it says error everytime I try to convert mkv
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Re: Need Help!

Postby Kariudo » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:32 am

virtualdub can't import .mkv directly (virtualdubmod may be able to, but that's iffy at best)

you should write an avisynth script to get it into vdub (use notepad, put .avs after the file name when you go to save it)
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DirectShowSource("file name.mkv")
replace file name with the actual filename (leave the double quotes in there). Make sure the .avs file is in the same folder as your mkv file.

to everyone else: yes I know DSS isn't frame accurate, but it doesn't matter if you're not clipping, and I'm opting for simple here
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