Otohiko wrote:stuff
I can agree with pretty much all of this, mostly because it doesn't make Zappa sound like that much of a genius/god anymore and isn't total fanboy talk. The musicians were doing great stuff and the music sounds interesting. But I'm still not buying the whole 'THIS GUY INFLUENCED EVERYTHING IN MUSIC'-speech and I never will. The guy isn't perfect, especially since you basically just told me to ignore all of the lyrics since they're so ridiculously cheesy. I can't do that 'Fuck the lyrics'-thing, never could. That's probably why I can listen to hip-hop when most other musically interested people can't anymore (because musically there is just nothing going on there in rap). I can only ignore lyrics when I don't understand them at all, hence my love for brutal death metal.
Otohiko wrote:If you can't tell the difference between that and the Bloodhound Gang, I think you should be worried.
That part was only about the lyrics, since it was all that band had that one could talk about.
Otohiko wrote:The anti-pretension, fuck-all sentiment is vaguely the same as the original punk movement, but IMHO Zappa's musicianship while maintaining that sentiment puts punk as such to shame.
Uhm, I might be wrong here but I think Punk would've pretty much sold out its basic concept and ideas if they'd have gone for the whole complex polyrhythmic thing. The main idea of Fuck-All also includes not being a music student and pretty much doing as little work as needed for the end product. Punk was meant to be raw and simple.
Summoning - 28 SAVE
Led Zeppelin - 24
Ajattara - 10
3 - 20
Moonspell - 26 KILL (I can keep on doing this forever just as well... ;>)
Frank Zappa - 24










