I dont get it [Why so many metal subgenres?]

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I dont get it [Why so many metal subgenres?]

Postby -Nfp » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:42 am

Might come as a pretty silly question...but i hear so much different types of metal/rock, i dont know the difference...me being mostly into hip hop and alternative, i just want to know the difference between stuff like heavy metal, power metal, death metal, black metal, goth metal...i see soo many different types, but whats the difference?

and where would a band like slipknot fit under?
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Postby Otohiko » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:43 am

Here's a good article on Progressive Rock genres which has a section on Metal too towards the bottom. It's a good educational read generally.

http://www.gepr.net/genre2.html

Slipknot, I believe, is not in any genre of metal. I would be inclined to define it as nu-metal/rapcore, a genre that's generally rejected as having anything to do with 'real metal' by the die-hard metalheads, so go figure.
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Postby Iamshadowkiller » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:42 pm

Here, let me just copy and paste this from somewhere, stop me if you've read this one...
<i>
"Metal Sub-Genres Explained:
The story is, there's a beautiful princess trapped in a castle guarded by a dragon. This is how the story would play out, depending on the metal genre of the knight:

POWER METAL: The protagonist arrives riding a white unicorn, escapes from the dragon, saves the princess and makes love to her in an enchanted forest.

THRASH METAL: The protagonist arrives, fights the dragon, saves the princess and f--ks her.

HEAVY / CLASSIC METAL: The protagonist arrives on a Harley, kills the dragon, drinks a few beers and f--ks the princess.

FOLK METAL: The protagonist arrives with some friends playing accordions, violins, flutes and many more weird instruments, the dragon falls sleep (because of all the dancing). Then they all leave without the princess.

VIKING METAL: The protagonist arrives in a ship, kills the dragon with his mighty axe, skins the dragon and eats it, rapes the princess to death, steals her belongings and burns the castle before leaving.

DEATH METAL: The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon, f--ks the princess and kills her, then leaves.

BLACK METAL: The protagonist arrives at midnight, kills the dragon and impales it in front of the castle. Then he sodomises the princess, and drinks her blood in a ritual before killing her. Then he impales the princess next to the dragon.

GORE: The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon and spreads its guts in front of the castle, f--ks the princess and kills her. Then he f--ks the dead body again, slashes her belly and eats her guts. Then he f--ks the carcass for the third time, burns the corpse and f--ks it for the last time.

DOOM: The protagonist arrives, sees the size of the dragon and thinks he could never beat him, then he gets depressed and commits suicide. The dragon eats his body and the princess as dessert. That's the end of the sad story.

PROGRESSIVE (PROG) METAL: The protagonist arrives with a guitar and plays a solo of 26 minutes. The dragon kills himself out of boredom. The protagonist arrives at the princess' bedroom, plays another solo with all the techniques and tunes he learned in the last year at the conservatory. The princess escapes looking for the HEAVY METAL protagonist."</i>

And Otohiko is right about Slipknot.

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Postby -Nfp » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:27 pm

thanks guys, and nice little story there lmao
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Postby mjsmith6743 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:30 am

lol best one was the Prog Metal
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Postby requiett » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:50 pm

Speed Metal: The knight arrives tweaking out on meth and steroids, asks the princess who she is, and kills her before she has a chance to respond. The knight then proceeds to fuck the dragon and commits double suicide with him.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:08 pm

I dunno, I love subgenres because I can tell the difference. Probably just because I'm so into metal that I can actually notice the distinctions. I also think metal is a broader genre than most; it offers more room for diversity. Or maybe that's just how I hear it. I'm kind of biased.

It's really pointless for a non-metalhead to think about the subgenres. I can only barely tell differences in the plethora of subgenres of techno, but I don't deny that there are distinctions.
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Postby CrackTheSky » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:57 am

This thread made me laugh.
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Postby shpongles » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:04 pm

Flint the Dwarf wrote:It's really pointless for a non-metalhead to think about the subgenres. I can only barely tell differences in the plethora of subgenres of techno, but I don't deny that there are distinctions.

Yeah... I'll say this, electronic music is the biggest and most diverse genre there is, there are too many subgenres to tell.
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Postby nailz » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:01 pm

Iamshadowkiller wrote:PROGRESSIVE (PROG) METAL: The protagonist arrives with a guitar and plays a solo of 26 minutes. The dragon kills himself out of boredom. The protagonist arrives at the princess' bedroom, plays another solo with all the techniques and tunes he learned in the last year at the conservatory. The princess escapes looking for the HEAVY METAL protagonist."</i>

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Postby Kher-za » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:03 am

If Metal Was a Hot Chick You Were Copulating With

(a study of different sub-genres)


Death metal: She strangles you with the umbilical cord of her 3rd-trimester aborted child and chops off your testicles with a rusty knife, then urinates on your corpse.

Progressive metal: She ignores you completely and masturbates instead.

Black metal: She drags you to the forest and sodomizes you with a crucifix, then accuses you of being a Zionist, communist homosexual and stabs you to death. She then burns your body for the glory of Odin and offers herself to a goat.

Power metal: N/A. No hot chick listens to power metal. Unless you're a chubby-chaser.

Doom metal: She whines about you thrusting too fast, then begins sobbing. She wonders why no one understands her, passes out from too much absinthe, and you don't get laid that night.

Grindcore: She gets you off in 30 seconds or less.

Folk metal: The session ends in disgust before it really started, because flutes simply aren't meant for certain orifices.

Thrash metal: You both have really sloppy, fast-paced sex then never see her for years. When she shows up again, she's gained 40 pounds, and she's bald.

Metalcore: You have awesome sex, and then you find out she's 15. You get arrested.
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Postby Iamshadowkiller » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:33 am

You sir are out of order :x


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Postby CerebralAssamite » Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:47 pm

Grindcore: She gets you off in 30 seconds or less.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, I love that one
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Re: I dont get it [Why so many metal subgenres?]

Postby Dr.Mabuse » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:47 am

NfpSouljah wrote:Might come as a pretty silly question...but i hear so much different types of metal/rock, i dont know the difference...me being mostly into hip hop and alternative, i just want to know the difference between stuff like heavy metal, power metal, death metal, black metal, goth metal...i see soo many different types, but whats the difference?

and where would a band like slipknot fit under?


Hmm:

Death Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6I4-dWDGPo
Power Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iOeA06_vOs
Heavy Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgqxQmAbTBc
Black Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BI4_NMxPb8
Goth Metal: No video, goth metal is gay
Thrash Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUDWLp1yIWw
Progressive Metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMauyB8zaKQ (Napalm Death feat. Dream Theater covers Metallica)

Ok, now, we can
differentiate in Death Metal... There are also many diffent styles.
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Postby Iced Earth Fan » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:13 pm

Well, alright then. I've listened to Metal for ten years of my life, so I'm going to try my hand at explaining sub-genres. Remember, this is all my own opionion, so feel free to debate:) Heavy Metal is mostly considered to be the bands that appeared in the early to mid eighties: Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Sampson, AngelWitch, are the ones who are mostly identified with this genre.

Power Metal and Epic metal are good, but stand pretty much the same to me. They're both based around fast paced and atmospheric melodies. Bands like Kamelot, Human Fortress, Domain, Dragon Force, Sonata Artica, Black Majesty, Blind Guardian, and Beyond Twilight are good examples of that genre.

Gothic Metal is a genre that is widely debated, as some bands that aren't really even metal try place themselves in it. In true gothic metal, you can expect heavy keyboard usage, and a dark, brooding presence within the music. But, a wide variety of sub genres appear in the Gothic metal, that allows bands to spread out to a wider audience. Nightwish, Epica Lacuna Coil, Dimmu Borgir, Evergrey, Within Temptation, Cradle of Filth, Penumbra, all can fall into this catagory.

Death and Black metal can be confusing, but when I think of Death Metal I think of bands like (Old) Therion, Celctic Frost, Cannible Corpse, Suffacation, Crytopsy, Slipnot, and HateBreed, these bands are more agressive, brutal sounding, and less based on melody. While Black Metal you can mainly find much more melody and rythems, and expect a decent amount of keyboards. Agathodaimon, Children of Bodom, Dimmu Borgir (Yes, again a band can fall under multiple genres), Winter Sun, Borknager, Empyrean Sky, all have a home here.

There are many, many other genres in Metal but those few are pretty much the basics. Some bands like Rhapsody Of Fire create a sound so uniuqe, that you fit the sound to one genre that already exists. That's when bands form their own genres, in R.O.F's case, they created "Film Score Metal". I hope that this helps in some way. But more than likely it'll confuse people even more:)
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