What is needed in music for you to enjoy it?

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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:58 am

Some type of decent song-writing ability. Hence why I don't listen to the radio. It'd be a miracle if The Grand Conjuration got on the radio, even the 5 minute edit of it.

I never gave a fuck what was popular really. I listen to my Nile, Death, Cynic, Opeth, Nevermore, etc. All the radio kiddies listen to their fiddy and nickelback.
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Postby Koyashed » Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:07 am

A tempo I can ride and a climax
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Postby lenu » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:19 pm

Fast and heavy music that has a melodic quality to it as well, with good, well-written lyrics.
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Postby -GfN- » Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:06 am

well, leaving the fact aside I like Metal, the music has to come up with pictures inside my head, sth I can associate it with, like movies in your head...guess why the best music is used for amv's :wink:

moreover, some feelings and an atmosphere have to be captured. important is this doesn't sound forced but organic and natural...
(I like more depressive and melancholic songs)

the last, but, however, not least factor is the musical quality, because the other factors would not be realised if this wasn't given...

...oh: and it don't has to be mainstream (=the downfall of individuality :shock: )

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Postby x_rex30 » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:49 pm

To me music is the art of sound not the art of lyrics. Lyrics is just the cherry on top.. and it's odd to me when people need lyrics to like any specific music.. the way a song is vocalized could express a lot and many of certain emotions and feelings and other elements in a song could do the same.

I don't need anything really specific in music.. I'll either naturally like it or not.. though I do go gaga over great vocalists/and unique ones like MSI and the old school disturbed..(they have a huge range in how they vocalize.. and it's cool how disturbed changes his vocals from normal to quite frightening... O_O)

I give just about everything a chance since each genre of music has its sub genres. I don't jump to the conclusion that something sucks or doesn't unless I've really looked into it.

The only music I can't stand is country.. maybe because it always has to be vocalized a certain way and to me it feels like there isn't enough variety and also maybe it's just because it reminds me of rednecks.

Metal.. I don't know if you are suppose to know what they are saying to really get it.. what exactly drives people to liking metal.. is it the bulging amount of anger that comes from it.. is it all anger music.. I'm kinda interested in it and don't know much about it or why people like it.. all I know about that is I like some of it and some of it sounds like garbage to me.

Rap/Hip Hop.. Is the art of lyrics.. not the art of sound.. too much of it is basic repetitive beats that repeat themselves over and over(good beat or bad.. still gets repetitive) with lyrics as support. Sometimes I barely hear many other elements in certain rap.. and it doesn't seem to matter too much how it is vocalized.. you just need attitude in what your saying or whatever.. some rap I like but a lot of it I don't understand. If I think something sounds repetitive and I don't like how it sounds in general.. I usually get people defending it by talking about it's lyrics.. I don't give a crap about the lyrics if the music sounds like shit.

Rock.. it goes from upbeat, downbeat, soft, hard.. has a great range in the way it is vocalized.. I have soo many reasons to like it while rap has a lot of limits to it that make me not like it as much.. and it too is also upbeat, downbeat, etc..

I also really like electronic music and there is like a hundred different sub genres for it. So unless you've experimented with a lot of different types.. it's going to be really hard for someone who doesn't like it telling me it sucks.. I just go off with the feeling that that individual is close minded.

any comments/opinions on what I just said? Feel free to bash me or enlighten me.. I don't mind.

also any other general comments and other posts relating to my very first post would be good too.

/rambling... -_-
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:10 pm

No, metal is not about anger. :?
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Postby x_rex30 » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:22 pm

Flint the Dwarf wrote:No, metal is not about anger. :?
I did say I don't know much about it. Tell me somthin' about it.. OK.. Now I know it's not about anger.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:39 pm

What's there to say? Metal is as diverse a genre as rock. If you've followed any of the metal debates that have occurred so many times around here, you would have at least witnessed the plethora of sub-genres, and the difference of taste among metalheads. Metal isn't always about power riffs, double bass, and screaming.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:44 am

Flint the Dwarf wrote:What's there to say? Metal is as diverse a genre as rock. If you've followed any of the metal debates that have occurred so many times around here, you would have at least witnessed the plethora of sub-genres, and the difference of taste among metalheads. Metal isn't always about power riffs, double bass, and screaming.


Amen.

I'd love to see you (x_rex30) tell Hansi Kursch that metal is about anger. He'd belt out some falsetto while singing about Lord of the Rings :D
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Postby x_rex30 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:35 am

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:Amen.

I'd love to see you (x_rex30) tell Hansi Kursch that metal is about anger. He'd belt out some falsetto while singing about Lord of the Rings :D


You know I did say I don't know much about metal.. I didn't even try to arguing with Flint.. I don't think we have to drag on the concept of it all being anger music since the metal god himself denied that being true.
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Postby requiett » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:47 am

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Postby Kai Stromler » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:55 am

x_rex30 wrote:
Flint the Dwarf wrote:No, metal is not about anger. :?
I did say I don't know much about it. Tell me somthin' about it.. OK.. Now I know it's not about anger.


I keep trying to reply to this, and the post just keeps getting longer and longer, and covering more and more stuff. So instead, you get to pick the essay you want me to write here:

- The Dead Term "Heavy Metal": Being an Exploration of the Development, Styles, and Relationships of Too Many Subgenres
- Planet Wacken: Metal as Agent of Escape, Catharsis, and Community
- Moshpit Ethics: Why We Do It, How We Behave, and How We Shrug It Off

If multiple essays are requested, there will be multiple posts rather than one big long one, and they may be spread over several days.

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Postby Tono_Fyr » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:19 am

NicholasDWolfwood wrote:
Flint the Dwarf wrote:What's there to say? Metal is as diverse a genre as rock. If you've followed any of the metal debates that have occurred so many times around here, you would have at least witnessed the plethora of sub-genres, and the difference of taste among metalheads. Metal isn't always about power riffs, double bass, and screaming.


Amen.

I'd love to see you (x_rex30) tell Hansi Kursch that metal is about anger. He'd belt out some falsetto while singing about Lord of the Rings :D

I'll Keep the ring full of sorrow, I'll keep the ring til I die, Slow down and I'll sail on the river, slow down and I'll walk to the hills, slow down and I'll sail on the river, slow down and I'll walk to the hills, slow down and I'll sail on the river, slow down and I'll walk to the hills.

It's awesome when that song picks up live. It's something I'm definitely looking forward to on the upcoming tour.

As for Kai... can I vote on all three? Because it's you, well, they'll all be highly informative, and probably funny as well.

But my first vote goes to "The Dead Term "Heavy Metal": Being an Exploration of the Development, Styles, and Relationships of Too Many Subgenres". That seems like it would probably be more all-encompassing than the other two, though Planet Wacken could get interesting, as so many parallels to it exist within (more or less) everyone's interests here.
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Postby Vocal_Fuery16 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:46 am

I guess when I listen to music, I have to feel a connection to the lyrics, the sound, or the vocalist who brings it to life. if I can't feel what they singer is trying to get across to me, I can't really enjoy the song or whatever. mainly why I stick with L'Arc~en~Ciel, T.M. Revolution, Alter Bridge, MCR, Vienna Tneg, and others who I feel actually have a connection with what they happen to be singing. seriously, a lot of artists nowadays just do a song to fill up the album space, so they feel no real connection to it.... anyway, enough of my rambling..... :P
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Postby x_rex30 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:55 pm

Kai Stromler wrote:I keep trying to reply to this, and the post just keeps getting longer and longer, and covering more and more stuff. So instead, you get to pick the essay you want me to write here:

- The Dead Term "Heavy Metal": Being an Exploration of the Development, Styles, and Relationships of Too Many Subgenres
- Planet Wacken: Metal as Agent of Escape, Catharsis, and Community
- Moshpit Ethics: Why We Do It, How We Behave, and How We Shrug It Off

If multiple essays are requested, there will be multiple posts rather than one big long one, and they may be spread over several days.

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Damn.. you don't have to burn yourself out. I'd like to hear about "The Dead Term "Heavy Metal"" You might save yourself the trouble of writing a lot if you know of any links explaining some of it.. but yeah, i am a bit curious.
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