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Re: Couldnt help but agree.

Postby Chaos Angel » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:36 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:those were some good points Chaos Angel, and i wasnt tryin to b rude, it just burns me that people think overuse equals bad quality.


-I'd agree with that. Overplaying a song doesn't make it bad. It just wears out it's welcome. Like a houseguest that refuses to leave, and keeps telling the same jokes over and over.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:I mean, the question has to b asked, if LP are so unlikable in relation to AMV's, why does everyone (generalisation) use them?


-Well, if I had to guess, I'd say that the reason there are a lot of Linkin Park videos is due to the amount of people who listen to the band. I don't think Linkin Park is necessarily good or bad for MVs. It's just another song choice. Just happens that this song choice has been used so much, people are sick of hearing the songs. It's like when you're driving, and the station plays the same god-damn song every fifteen minutes or so. It may not be a bad song, per se, but you may grow sick of it from hearing it so much. That's why I stopped liking Linkin Park. I heard them so much, I got sick of them. Same with Limp Bizkit. No, wait... I NEVER liked Limp Bizkit. ;)

My philosophy: Make whatever the hell you want. Go with whatever idea pops into your head. Have fun with it. I mean, who do you make videos for, other people or yourself? Unless you are video editting as a career, as I am thinking of doing when I get out of college (shameless plug), then the answer isn't other people. It's yourself. Your videos are expressions of yourself. If that includes Linkin Park, so be it.
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Re: what exactly is your problem?

Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:46 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:so, let me ask u something? Whats your problem? why do u insult ppl who are different than you, or have different tastes than u. Im asking because i want to understand the mind of an ASSHOLE.


I like LP, but I find that their new songs, and even some of their songs on "Hybrid Theory" are a bit dull, so I listen to the very old songs of theirs, from the album "Hybrid Theory EP". I like to listen to High Voltage (Remix), My December and Carousel.
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hmmm...

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:49 pm

yes, i see what you mean.

Im havin problems with a certain klinky and NicholasDWolfwood at the moment. They and their associates have takin it upon themselves to abuse me. For asking where i might find some good quality video clips. Had i known it would get me flamed, i never wouldve asked. Just a query: does that happen often or am i a first do u know?
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:53 pm

It happens often. If you want to take something up with me, or argue with me, do it in a PM. *Once again, takes out hi .45 Long Colt and shoots SS5_Moron_Baby in the head*
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Re: what exactly is your problem?

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:54 pm

I like LP, but I find that their new songs, and even some of their songs on "Hybrid Theory" are a bit dull, so I listen to the very old songs of theirs, from the album "Hybrid Theory EP". I like to listen to High Voltage (Remix), My December and Carousel.


look, man, i never asked for abuse but people are giving it to me in bucket loads. Just give up, coz its startin to get tiresome. if askin for media sites is a no-no, im sorry i asked. but if not, ease up a bit, for the sake of diplomacy. This is an AMV site, not a flame forum.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Nov 18, 2002 8:57 pm

Don't you DARE tell me what to do. You've been here for what? A week? I've been here since June, and Klinky has been here since May.
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*sigh*

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:04 pm

i joined 15 days after you.

dont you dare abuse me!! ind if you say "what r u gonna do" well, i could say the same to u about (gay voice)"ehh, don you DARE tell ME what to do"
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:37 pm

Well, it seems like you don't post much. Moron.
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Re: hmmm...

Postby Chaos Angel » Mon Nov 18, 2002 9:53 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Im havin problems with a certain klinky and NicholasDWolfwood at the moment. They and their associates have takin it upon themselves to abuse me. For asking where i might find some good quality video clips. Had i known it would get me flamed, i never wouldve asked. Just a query: does that happen often or am i a first do u know?


Welp, I've never seen someone ask for video clips before, so I dunno. The problem with that, though, is that most people have neither the space nor the desire to host digisubs off of their websites. If you can't afford the DVDs (Highly recommended, since they will provide higher quality clips), try a P2P program.

However, if you were flamed for asking for clips, it may be because using digisubs as source is somewhat looked down upon, for a couple of reasons.

1. Digisubs yield inferior final output quality when compared to videos made with DVD source. Everytime you re-compress a video file, you lose a little quality, especially when doing the final compression to distribution format. Since a digi-sub is encoded the same as the distribution copy of a video would be, using a digi-sub as source is essentially starting out with the lowest-possible quality source, and it will lose some more quality through the various stages of compression. For comparison, I offer these two images.

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In the image on the right, which is taken from my very first video, made with divx digisub source, I have circled the areas where you can see color distortions and compression noise. The most noticeable ones are in the bottom of Spike's face, in the border between light and shadow. The one on the left, made with as little re-compression as possible, you can see it's much cleaner, and there is a mild color difference between the two as well.

2. The other reason digi-subs are somewhat looked down upon as source is due to the subtitles. A lot of people leave the subtitles in for some unholy reason, and it looks tacky as hell. Especially one I saw, where the subtitles where in Chinese (possibly Korean, but I am sure they were not Japanese), so it's just pointless.

The subtitles are a bitch to remove, and many people don't see the need to bother. I only had to bother once, in one scene in the aforementioned video, and that was an unholy experience.

The primary reason is the quality of the source, though. It's always nicer to look at a video where the image quality is clean and crisp, versus one where everything has random color artifacts in every area of subtle gradiation or where it's pixelated from bad aspect ratios.

And, of course, there is the whole legal area, where fansubs of US-licensed series are technically not supposed to be distributed. Technically, I shouldn't have been able to download the digisubs I made that video with, as the distribution should have ceased once it became licensed. Many people look down on downloading as an alternative to buying, because it's essentially stealing. Myself, I only download to preview, never as an alternative to buying.
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yeah...

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:36 pm

that would be the opinion, but theyve resorted to personal attacks. yeah, i can see how so called "newbies" askin for clips can be irritating, but hey, so can alot of things. Well dvd-ripping is gonna happen for me as soon as i get my new system in a week or two, but i put that post up a while ago, and its turned into a verbal slugfest. I appreciate the input.
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Postby Chaos Angel » Mon Nov 18, 2002 10:39 pm

No prob. Good luck.
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Postby bloodyfang » Mon Nov 18, 2002 11:09 pm

klinky wrote:It's popular to not like things that are popular! :?
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the trendiest thing is making fun of trendy people.
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Postby Rozard » Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:06 am

NicholasDWolfwood: If you're going to post a pic that I posted, save it and host it somewhere else. Please don't waste my Angelfire bandwidth.

SS5_Majin_Bebi: Even though you may have joined the Org a few months ago, you obviously haven't participated in the forums that much. Had you done so, you would have known that Kamoc posted that picture just to piss you off, and I posted mine just to laught at the matter. Honestly, is it worth getting all peeved about someone not liking your band.

I don't get mad at people if they don't like 311, or if they say they suck. I did, however, get very irritated with temjin over something. Even though I knew he was joking, he accused me of being a racist for liking 311. It's true, that 311 is a White Supremicy number (311= 3 11's = 3 K's = KKK), but I am in complete opposition of racism, as is the band 311 (They based their name off a police code). It's things such as this that are worth getting upset about. Throwing a hissy-fit because someone posted a picture, one that others found humorous, just proves that you have, as you put it "MATURITY LEVELS THAT ARE LOWER THAT THE AVERAGE RETARDED PENGUIN!!!!!!"

You've said in some posts that you've made that you didn't think you'd get flamed for asking certain questions. Well, it does depend upon who's answering those questions, and how you word them. Believe me, starting a thread defending a band that isn't necessarily hated here, but is shall I say 'scorned' isn't very wise. It's downright moronic to defend them by calling people ignorant and dumb asses for not liking your favorite band.

Also, there are many people who post the same questions and threads day after day after day after day. Guess what: These people haven't been here for that long. It's very irritating to see these threads revive themselves, like some perverted pheonix rising up from the ashes (Most likely because we flamed it to death). Just because you joined in July doesn't mean you've been participating since then. Had you been, you'd have developed a sense of people's behaviors. In other words, back off and just participate in the fun. Learn the workings of the forum some before you post some more. If that doesn't help, stay away from the forums for a while. You'll age some (and hopefully mature), and some people might forget that you created this thread.
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Its gone on long enough.

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:38 pm

u missed the point completely, but it doesnt really matter anymore i guess. A simple comment turned into a verbal holocaust, and i think its time that ALL PLAYERS (including myself, who probably shouldnt have gotten narked but hey, what can u do) give up, because its a nonproductive waste of time. Time we could be using to do other things like....make AMV's!!! I get defensive too easily, i'll concede that much. But the point i was trying to make was its juvenile to poke pun, just for a laugh. And in comments of maturity, poking fun doesnt rate that high. Anyway, maturity is a subjective thing. Im willin to call truce, seeing as it was sortof my fault this erupted in the first place. What can i say, i was in a pissed off mood, and read something i didnt like.
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Postby NicholasDWolfwood » Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:16 pm

Rozard wrote:NicholasDWolfwood: If you're going to post a pic that I posted, save it and host it somewhere else. Please don't waste my Angelfire bandwidth.


Sorry, Rozard. Never even thought about your bandwidth, just wanted to piss the baby off.
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