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Read this if u hav a problem with Linkin Park Music Vids

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:26 pm

Q. What the SHIT is with people raggin out mVids that have Linkin Park as a base?

A. These people obviously cant appreciate good music.

STOP PISSING ON LP!! This band happens to be the band that went Quadruple Platinum last yr, is NOT manufactured, is NOT a boy band, IS one of the best bands on the planet. Their music is versatile for music videos because of the themes in their songs. As i sit here writing this i am wearing one of my Linkin Park shirts, so its not a very large mental effort to figure what my fave band is. If u dont like their music dont listen to it, but dont attack or abuse or complain when someone uses one of their songs for an AMV. They probably wouldnt do it to you, so have a little bit of consideration, maybe something with the words "MUTUAL RESPECT" in it.
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Re: Read this if u hav a problem with Linkin Park Music Vids

Postby mexicanjunior » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:27 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Q. What the SHIT is with people raggin out mVids that have Linkin Park as a base?

A. These people obviously cant appreciate good music.



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Postby silver_moon » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:37 pm

Well... you have to respect the fact that people have different tastes.

I don't hate Linkin Park... actually you'll probably find that most people don't really hate it here. It's just that it gets very repetitive to hear the same songs over and over (even if they're good songs, after hearing them too many times makes you get sick of it after a while), and we would like some variety in the songs used in videos. We don't want a whole database of Linkin Park videos. But if people want to make a Linkin Park video, they perfectly well can. It's just probably not going to be something terribly exciting because it's been done so many times before.
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that makes sense

Postby SS5_Majin_Bebi » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:49 pm

Makes sense, but in my experience, alot of members of sites like this have a horrible attitude problem. Actually, im currently arguin with wired knight bcoz he got smart and mocked me.

Anyway, ive seen it happen b4. Someone makes an LP vid, and everyone goes "How lame/stupid/boring/gay/juvenile...." u gt the idea. And its crap! u dont see ppl going "O no, not another mvid to "Kryptonite"" do you? well i dont. They have a problem with the band and music, not the concept of an mvid to a song. And they kick u out if u say anything. its getting harder and harder to please ppl, hell to even talk to ppl these days. Humanity is a twisted, twisted race.
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Postby RichLather » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:51 pm

Y'know, there's a perfectly good thread on this up in General AMVs.

All the things you'll hear here have already been said there.

We don't hate LP, but it's been used so many time with so many badly-done AMVs (usually involving DBZ or Evangelion) that one cannot help but associate LP with distaste.
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:10 pm

Well let me be the first to say that I don't like them.

I don't like rap, and besides, most anything mainstream is flawed in some way. The last mainstream anything that I liked was when the music vid to freak on a leash went all the way to the top on TRL.
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Re: Read this if u hav a problem with Linkin Park Music Vids

Postby kthulhu » Thu Nov 14, 2002 9:12 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Q. What the SHIT is with people raggin out mVids that have Linkin Park as a base?

A. These people obviously cant appreciate good music.


Linkin Park being "good music" is open to opinion. Mine is, they're the "emo" of hard rock - which is a BAD thing.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:STOP PISSING ON LP!! This band happens to be the band that went Quadruple Platinum last yr, is NOT manufactured, is NOT a boy band, IS one of the best bands on the planet.


Britney Spears and N'sync have also gone platinum and they make crap music. Your point? Not being manufactured doesn't mean they don't suck. And as for being one of the best bands on the planet, that depends on who you ask. I think they're bleh.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Their music is versatile for music videos because of the themes in their songs.


The overriding theme in their songs is "angst against the world that has hurt me", which they have to make up, since their lives aren't bad enough to supply enough traumatic inspiration. Getting beaten by the police warrants angsty writing. Writing an "angry" song because mommy yelled at you for getting a nostril piercing and dying your hair orange isn't.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:As i sit here writing this i am wearing one of my Linkin Park shirts, so its not a very large mental effort to figure what my fave band is. If u dont like their music dont listen to it, but dont attack or abuse or complain when someone uses one of their songs for an AMV.

Good for you on the shirt. Band shirts kick ass. As for bitching at people about using Linkin Park, I don't. I politely tell them that they probably won't get a positive response, if any, if they make a Dragonball Z and Linkin Park video.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:They probably wouldnt do it to you, so have a little bit of consideration, maybe something with the words "MUTUAL RESPECT" in it.


Respect is a privilege usually, not a right. But I see your point.
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Re: Read this if u hav a problem with Linkin Park Music Vids

Postby Chaos Angel » Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:38 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:STOP PISSING ON LP!! This band happens to be the band that went Quadruple Platinum last yr, is NOT manufactured, is NOT a boy band, IS one of the best bands on the planet.


There's a flaw in your logic. You assume that popularity implies good. Going Quadruple Platinum is merely a sign that a lot of people bought the CDs. Just because a lot of people like it, doesn't necessarily make it good. Art, in any form (music, drawings, AMVs, etc.) is extremely subjective and open to the interpretation of the viewer. What one person likes, another may loathe. The Harry Potter movie made a crapload of money. A lot of people liked it. I thought it was mediocre at best, and didn't really have much going for it aside from special effects. To say that anything popular must be good is herd mentality. The Pillows (Japanese alterna-punk band) will probably never be popular in America (not even sure how popular they are in Japan, I'll have to check on it), but they make some damn good music. Good is in the mind of the viewer, or listener, not an inherent quality of the record sales.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:Their music is versatile for music videos because of the themes in their songs.


I'd appreciate some samples of their versatility, because all of the song's I've listened to pretty much lend themselves to videos focusing on futility (In The End), rage (One Step Closer), insanity (Crawling), paranoia (Papercut), and other negative emotions. I have never heard a Linkin Park song that lent itself to a positive mood.

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:If u dont like their music dont listen to it, but dont attack or abuse or complain when someone uses one of their songs for an AMV.


-I couldn't agree more. Make whatever the hell you want. You can use whatever song or anime you want for your videos. They are, after all, YOUR videos, not anyone elses.

I would have to agree with what has been said before, that the primary reason a lot of people have been turned negative against LP videos is the over-use of the band's songs. When something has been experienced too much, it loses appeal. I sometimes find myself wanting to just throw away my mix discs because I've listened to the songs too many damn times and I get sick of them, even though I love them. Granted, I'm not one of those people who can watch something over and over again endlessly. I need a break. I can't listen to even My Iron Lung or Blues Drive Monster (two of my favorite songs) too much without needing a break from it.

I have a story that may interest you. My first video was made with Cowboy Bebop and Chop Suey by System of a Down. Second to Dragonball Z and Linkin Park in over-use and people being sick of the combo. I liked the video a lot (I still do, probably nostalgia and a clouded perspective), but when I put it up on the site, I got a couple reviews where people blasted me for unoriginality of song/anime combo. One review even went like this, verbatim.

Good: None
Bad: Crap
General: Poo

So, I can empathize with people calling my work bad based upon their personal feelings towards the band and/or the combo used.

Another guy was extremely direct in his view and his assessment. "You're talented, but this video completely lacks originality." It's human nature. You see something too often, and it gets so you are just sick of seeing it.

On a side note, I want to say that, in my opinion, you won't get much of anywhere by being rude and insulting. I can understand that you're pissed about people blanketing all LP vids as crap just because they do not like the band, and not based upon the merits of the individual videos at all, but you won't get anywhere by being intensely negative towards the entire forum and insulting everyone else's personal tastes in music. The adamant anti-LPers are the minority, not the majority. Not everyone here goes off on rants against this-or-that band or singer. Everyone has different tastes in music, anime, hell, everything. The key is accepting that other people like different things and not forcing what you like upon them.

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Re: that makes sense

Postby FirestormXIII » Fri Nov 15, 2002 12:10 am

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:u dont see ppl going "O no, not another mvid to "Kryptonite"" do you?

Actually, I have. I myself groan a little (not publicly though) in patience-wearing-thin-mode when I see anything being overdone in the same manner unto death.

I myself like a lot of music, and Linkin Park is included in that long list. They're not my favorite band, but they're not the worst either. It would certainly help their cause if they acutally came out with a new CD, instead of remixes of old stuff :roll:




And my only response to Kthulhu's post: BAM! You are fucking Emeril. :lol:
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Postby klinky » Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:01 am

It's popular to not like things that are popular! :?


Let's just say that LP, Limp Bizkit, System of a Down have been raped repeatedly by crappy videos, so much so that they are worn out and useless...


That sounds sicker then it is? or is it?



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Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 15, 2002 1:06 am

Well, even though I don't like them, I won't flame people that do, and long as they don't flame me for not liking them.
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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Postby priuscomet » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:39 am

ImageLinkin Park

i like linkin park...dont' mean i won't piss on them.... :lol:

humour my man...

anyway...prob with them is yeah, they get great songs....but they get played out too fast.... :?
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Postby priuscomet » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:40 am

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fuckin piece of crap...





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Postby priuscomet » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:41 am

oh screw this shit....>< this is why we should have damn edit buttons..gah!
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Postby CaTaClYsM » Fri Nov 15, 2002 5:55 am

we should have had it back when ermack tried to link from something-awful.com. Topless chick gets you modded and banned, but a cumming penis is ok?
So in other words, one part of the community is waging war on another part of the community because they take their community seriously enough to want to do so. Then they tell the powerless side to get over the loss cause it's just an online community. I'm glad people make so much sense." -- Tab
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