Best rock album ever?

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Postby MetalWolf » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:36 pm

Back In Black by AC/DC
Horror Show by Iced Earth
Criptic Writings by Megadeth

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Postby Otohiko » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:45 pm

Yes, but there's long strings of influence with any band. And any band will tell you of bands they think are greater than them.

And remember the subjective thing. Really, there's nothing objective in music except numbers and notes. And music isn't supposed to be judged numerically (plus, there's a ton of artists I can list that are way the hell more technically apt than Pink Floyd, Metallica or Tool).

So, really, it's all extremely subjective. It's all about its' effects on people. And even if, en masse, a band has had a significant effect, if it has no effect on certain individuals, then the whole 'greatest' thing is useless.

For instance, try as you may, while I can see why people like punk, or why they deify Metallica or Pink Floyd - hell, just with Pink Floyd - I tried listening to that band. I desperately tried to like it. Largely, it fell on deaf ears. It's great, it's well-thought of, it's enjoyable, but... it's not where it's at for me musically, period. That may change, but presently, it's not the case. No figures of their popularity or explainations of their lyrics will likely ever change that.

Listening to music because it's popular is useless. Listening to music because critics or masses of fans called it 'greatest' is useless. Listen, learn, pick what speaks to you, stick with it. Nothing except the music should even matter.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:57 pm

Otohiko, I was referring to the spread of innovative conventions. That can only be achieved if the band attains popularity, whether the band is good or enjoyable or not doesn't matter as long as the conventions are spread (even if they existed previously), and is regarded as a talented and highly enjoyable band. In that way, I think good albums can be judged on a less subjective level.

Believe me, I can name several bands that are far more talented than every band featured on my list (with the exception of Blind Guardian :P ).
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Postby Otohiko » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:01 pm

mmm... well, the popularity definitely has something to do with it.

In that case, my less-subjective vote would be the already-mentioned Sgt. Peppers' etc.

Hardly is there a more universally influential band that defined so many concepts in rock music, and influenced others to move beyond them.
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Postby Chef » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:43 pm

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hm...revolver was a much better album than peppers but peppers was way more influential...hum...
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Postby kilik^ » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:15 pm

Limp bizkit - results may vary
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Postby Propyro » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:30 pm

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limb bizkit = best rock album? err ok whatever works for you ...

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Postby Chef » Sun Oct 19, 2003 4:35 pm

you know...rearranged was a great song, and i wish it got more radio play than it does, all i ever hear is faith and the mission impossible theme (crap and crap)
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Sun Oct 19, 2003 5:55 pm

MetalWolf wrote:Back In Black by AC/DC
Horror Show by Iced Earth
Criptic Writings by Megadeth

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Really? Personally, I liked Something Wicked and Burnt Offerings a little more.
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Postby kilik^ » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:26 pm

Propyro wrote::?

limb bizkit = best rock album? err ok whatever works for you ...

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:roll: well not everybody has the same taste musically! :lol:
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Postby Wonka » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:32 pm

Either:

Beck - Odelay

or

Ween - The Mollusk



I would say Pink Floyd - Dark side of the Moon, but Money (while an incrededible song in and of itself) did not fit in the album at all, and Im trying to look at this as an album, not a collection of songs.
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Sun Oct 19, 2003 6:35 pm

I totally agree about "Money," it always felt out of place even if I do like it.
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Postby downwithpants » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:22 pm

couldn't tell you the best rock album
but my favorite is the smashing pumpkin's siamese dream
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Postby RobLoge85 » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:50 pm

For me:

In Flames: Colony/The Jester Race-Black Ash Inheritance
CKY: Infiltrate, Destroy, Rebuild
Thrice: The Artist In The Ambulance/The Illusion Of Safety
AFI: The Art Of Drowning
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Postby Propyro » Sun Oct 19, 2003 9:55 pm

kilik^ wrote:
Propyro wrote::?

limb bizkit = best rock album? err ok whatever works for you ...

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:roll: well not everybody has the same taste musically! :lol:


according to the people at urbandictionary.com it's not too far from that. well ... i like soem of their old stuff ... but chocolate starfish was just wrong ... but i never heard their new album ... so really i can't comment.

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