Chef wrote:...whatever is more popular, i dont know...and if people are gonna form their own opinions, shouldnt they voice them?
They're both wildly popular. And you shouldn't voice your opinion if all you have to say are bad things. It's not a discussion you HAVE to be a part of, if you have no interest in a thread, just don't post in it.
Not a hard concept. It's going to be sensless no good bashing that will get people banned at my forum as well. No one asked you directly what you thought.
Obviously some people DO like them, including your brother. Don't just turn people off before giving them a chance to form thier own opinion.
And Mike, I'm pretty sure they did release something on their own, I just don't know what it's called.