rAGE aGAINST tHE mACHINE

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rAGE aGAINST tHE mACHINE

Postby Cess007 » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:03 pm

..This group was simply the best, since they appear in '92, for my the music didn't be the same, never.

what's your opinion about the group?..
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Postby kthulhu » Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:15 pm

Pretty rockin', they had some good points in their music, but then they became kind of annoying, mostly because rich ass college kids listened to them to feel all morally superior and rebellious (so long as it didn't interfere with their education to make $50,000 a year+).

I don't blame Zack De La Rocha for leaving (and essentially killing the band). Trying to raise consciousness and all, and instead Rage became associated with rich far-left poseurs and the "Godzilla" soundtrack.

Still, "Evil Empire" was a good album.
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Postby FoolThemAll » Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:23 pm

Never liked them, and I never really understood the appeal. The vocals bug the heck out of me.
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Postby -M_X_R- » Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:21 am

Viva! Che! - Yea, they were pretty cool, I just like the way there appeal to rebel leaders came about, you know, like there t-shirts w/Che/Emiliano/and of course Pancho Villa, I seem to take an intrest in all three of them since the were great legends of rebellion and latino.. :wink:
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Postby kthulhu » Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:26 pm

FoolThemAll wrote:Never liked them, and I never really understood the appeal. The vocals bug the heck out of me.


Rage appealed most to suburban and "radical" college kids. Imperialism this, oppression that, but god forbid they do anything that might affect their chances to make $$$ when they graduate.

Che was an interesting character, but a <a href="http://www.che-lives.com/home/bio2.shtml">poor leader</a> in the end. I don't think it's wise to piss off both the Soviet Union AND the US during the cold war, or start up rebellion in other countries before getting your own in order.

Pancho Villa ended up being shot by the US Army, as I recall, with no true legacy beyond the tales of his exploits.

<a href="http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/ezapata1.html">Emiliano</a> was killed, too, and the Zapatista conflict is going on still.

Oh well, they're still interesting characters.

Speaking of Mexican bands, anyone here heard of Hocico?
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Postby Deathlok the Demolisher » Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:49 pm

Better we die on our feet than live on our knees
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Postby kthulhu » Mon Jun 30, 2003 12:00 am

OK...whatever that is referring to...
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Postby Farlo » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:20 am

*rages against the washing machine*
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Postby Cardinal.jpg » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:48 pm

Deathlok the Demolisher wrote:Better we die on our feet than live on our knees

I am wearing a RATM shirt with Emiliano on the front and that quote on the back at the moment.
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Postby Naveed » Tue Jul 01, 2003 2:50 pm

if you recal in rage's song on the godzilla soundtrack they took a shot at godzilla in the song used on the godzilla soundtrack "no shelter". "And Rambo too, he got a dope pair of Nikes on
And Godzilla pure muthaf***in filler
To keep ya eyes off the real killer ", think about that one there captain
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Postby kthulhu » Tue Jul 01, 2003 3:12 pm

I'll think about the sell-out money and publicity they got from doing that song, thanks. Perhaps, had it been a different movie, I'd cut them more slack, but God fucking Zilla? C'mon, from an alternative audio hard rock pseudo rebellious group, I'd expect more artistic integrity than that.
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Postby ithaqua » Tue Jul 01, 2003 6:24 pm

To be fair, KMFDM was on Mortal Kombat, Bad Boys, and (I don't know this last one for sure ) an episode of Beverly Hills 90210.

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Postby Moonlight Shadow » Tue Jul 01, 2003 9:55 pm

They had a song (can't remember the title right now) that described
almost everything that happened between America and Iraq but the song was written way before anything happened... They're lyrics are very much interesting and fascinating
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Postby NME » Wed Jul 02, 2003 9:34 am

No shelter was purely a song against corporate america (what rage song isn't?) and the entertainment industry. Kinda funny that a song openly dissing Godzilla was on the soundtrack. Well, some companies will do anything for publicity.
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Postby kthulhu » Wed Jul 02, 2003 4:57 pm

ithaqua wrote:To be fair, KMFDM was on Mortal Kombat, Bad Boys, and (I don't know this last one for sure ) an episode of Beverly Hills 90210.

Hey, you gotta eat sooner or later.


Yeah, but KMFDM is different. KMFDM doesn't market itself as "hardcore" and "against the system" - at least, in a serious manner like Rage Against The Machine apparently did.

I suppose my major beef with Rage is that they didn't choose a better movie.
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